Control arms
#1
Control arms
I want to replace my control arms. I am running a 4" lift and don't have the cash to replace all of them. Which should I do first? upper or lower? Should I just wait till I can do all of them. Stock ones have 12,500 miles
#2
You might want to go with lowers first so you can get the proper caster set for the front axle...just a thought, I have Ironman4x4fab lowers and they are freakin awesome and brand new they are only $195. You can get them off his website, just for your info...hope I helped.
#5
Front uppers are the correct choice for adjusting caster (edited, mistake).
The lowers are easier to change so that's what most people do, but the right way is to change the uppers.
Take a look at the forward bolt on the passenger side upper arm. There's not enough clearance to pull it out so you have to loosen it what you can and then cut it off with a sawzall...takes about 10 min. tops...not a big deal.
Plus the uppers are cheaper.
And, as far as your driveshaft is concerned...don't get carried away with too much caster and you will lessen the likelyhood of problems. You can get away with a bit lees than the factory caster spec when running larger tires.
The lowers are easier to change so that's what most people do, but the right way is to change the uppers.
Take a look at the forward bolt on the passenger side upper arm. There's not enough clearance to pull it out so you have to loosen it what you can and then cut it off with a sawzall...takes about 10 min. tops...not a big deal.
Plus the uppers are cheaper.
And, as far as your driveshaft is concerned...don't get carried away with too much caster and you will lessen the likelyhood of problems. You can get away with a bit lees than the factory caster spec when running larger tires.
Last edited by zoeydad; 01-25-2010 at 07:39 PM.
#6
The front upper CA's can certainly be used to adjust Caster angle, but they are not necessarily "the correct" choice.
The lower arms provide a wider adjustment range than the uppers, which is one of the reasons they are a popular choice.
In the end if you have an aftermarket driveshaft with double cardan CV joints, the pinion angle will limit the amount of Caster you can dial in.
Ironically, the stock shaft design is actually a bit more tolerant of the pinion angle, though not of total driveshaft angle.
The lower arms provide a wider adjustment range than the uppers, which is one of the reasons they are a popular choice.
In the end if you have an aftermarket driveshaft with double cardan CV joints, the pinion angle will limit the amount of Caster you can dial in.
Ironically, the stock shaft design is actually a bit more tolerant of the pinion angle, though not of total driveshaft angle.
#7
Front uppers are the correct choice for adjusting camber.
The lowers are easier to change so that's what most people do, but the right way is to change the uppers.
Take a look at the forward bolt on the passenger side upper arm. There's not enough clearance to pull it out so you have to loosen it what you can and then cut it off with a sawzall...takes about 10 min. tops...not a big deal.
Plus the uppers are cheaper.
And, as far as your driveshaft is concerned...don't get carried away with too much caster and you will lessen the likelyhood of problems. You can get away with a bit lees than the factory caster spec when running larger tires.
The lowers are easier to change so that's what most people do, but the right way is to change the uppers.
Take a look at the forward bolt on the passenger side upper arm. There's not enough clearance to pull it out so you have to loosen it what you can and then cut it off with a sawzall...takes about 10 min. tops...not a big deal.
Plus the uppers are cheaper.
And, as far as your driveshaft is concerned...don't get carried away with too much caster and you will lessen the likelyhood of problems. You can get away with a bit lees than the factory caster spec when running larger tires.
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#9
Front uppers are the correct way. Lowers push the front wheels forward increasing the wheel base and misaligning the springs and bump stops(admittedly a small amount), while uppers simply rotate the alxe.
You have to lengthen the lowers quite a bit more to accomplish the same amount of adjustment (caster angle adjustment) compared to shortening the uppers.
The same thing applies in the rear...uppers to adjust pinion angle.
You have to lengthen the lowers quite a bit more to accomplish the same amount of adjustment (caster angle adjustment) compared to shortening the uppers.
The same thing applies in the rear...uppers to adjust pinion angle.
#10
Front uppers are the correct way. Lowers push the front wheels forward increasing the wheel base and misaligning the springs and bump stops(admittedly a small amount), while uppers simply rotate the alxe.
You have to lengthen the lowers quite a bit more to accomplish the same amount of adjustment (caster angle adjustment) compared to shortening the uppers.
The same thing applies in the rear...uppers to adjust pinion angle.
You have to lengthen the lowers quite a bit more to accomplish the same amount of adjustment (caster angle adjustment) compared to shortening the uppers.
The same thing applies in the rear...uppers to adjust pinion angle.