Originally Posted by scemracing

Yes it does depend on limit straps and bumpstops but if setup correctly you can get X" amount of travel is what they are saying. I think it has to do with the kits that mount the coilovers at an angle on the rear. 12" of travel coilovers will not have 12" travel if they are mounted at say a 30 degree angle you will have less plus this also messes with how the valving and springs are setup because as the axle goes up one inch the coilovers do not compress one inch they compress less so you have to compensate for that. As the shock compresses it changes that angle from 30-40 degrees now you springs and valving are changing as the coilover travels up. With the EVO rear bolt on they actually had King make custom coilovers for that application they are not an of the shelf coilover it sits in the stock shock location which keeps its angle to minimum and also keeps it from changing that much as it travels.

Please correct me if I am wrong!

Originally Posted by dlincoln91

Alright so what would be the difference in the front setups of the rebel offroad and the bolt on evo? The both sit about the same and are very similar setups.
One is just a company that many clearly are bias about which they do make good products but nobody has really seen the real facts on the differences. WOL stated something but that doesnt mean its always true. I dont see how one setup only runs 9.5" inches of travel and the other is 12. I understand that angles will make a difference but in the front not that much. Im an engineering major and a 5 degree angle wouldnt change the hypotenuse of a triangle being the coilover difference that much.Now in the rear yes because they are at a steeper angle

Originally Posted by dlincoln91

Alright so what would be the difference in the front setups of the rebel offroad and the bolt on evo? The both sit about the same and are very similar setups.
One is just a company that many clearly are bias about which they do make good products but nobody has really seen the real facts on the differences. WOL stated something but that doesnt mean its always true. I dont see how one setup only runs 9.5" inches of travel and the other is 12. I understand that angles will make a difference but in the front not that much. Im an engineering major and a 5 degree angle wouldnt change the hypotenuse of a triangle being the coilover difference that much.Now in the rear yes because they are at a steeper angle

Originally Posted by chris@offroadevolution

It's not located in the same position, we're using proprietary shocks built for us to achieve the travel.

Originally Posted by wayoflife

Originally Posted by dlincoln91

How does a proprietary shock change travel if both coilovers are 12". They still both max out at 12" of travel?

Originally Posted by scemracing

The 12's might be the same but the other company says you can't do 14" coilovers and EVO does it so maybe thats what they mean?

Originally Posted by dlincoln91

rebel says you can do 14" coilovers...
they are running 14" ones on there own jk and it seems fine?
i would just think the fronts would be the same almost besides having a double throwdown which would be for better ride and offroad feeling.
but in travel sense i would think the front would be similar.
NOW the rear is no comparison for sure... The cantilever is the way to go like someone said above. it creates a straight coilover with a cantilever pushing down on the axle.
I have been studying this stuff using my notes from vector statics and physics