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Coilover vs standard sping lift

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Old 05-19-2012, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by grandpa jeep
Ok so on any kit ( generally speaking ) the tire is only able togo as high as clearance and bumpstops allow. So is the droop/drop where the coil over is superior compared to spring in the over all flex?
With coil overs, your tire is able to go as high as the coil over travel will allow without bottoming out. Your bump stops would be set according to that. Droop is ultimately limited to drive shaft bind and while you can get a lot more with coil overs, there is still only so much you can do there. Optimally, you want to set your coil overs to a lower ride height as that will give you a better COG and allow you to maximize your articulation. kits like what EVO makes have brackets that have higher mounting points than stock or any other coil over kit and that allows you to run longer coil overs with significantly more travel. With their brackets, you can set your ride height lower than the competition and unlike them, use the entire length of the coil over. This is why EVO coil overs are the only ones that can offer really big flex.
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Originally Posted by wayoflife
With coil overs, your tire is able to go as high as the coil over travel will allow without bottoming out. Your bump stops would be set according to that. Droop is ultimately limited to drive shaft bind and while you can get a lot more with coil overs, there is still only so much you can do there. Optimally, you want to set your coil overs to a lower ride height as that will give you a better COG and allow you to maximize your articulation. kits like what EVO makes have brackets that have higher mounting points than stock or any other coil over kit and that allows you to run longer coil overs with significantly more travel. With their brackets, you can set your ride height lower than the competition and unlike them, use the entire length of the coil over. This is why EVO coil overs are the only ones that can offer really big flex.
thanks for the additional info. very informative. I am new to learning about coil overs also. Just ordered up the EVO Enforcer, already making plans for coil overs
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Originally Posted by RedRockIt

thanks for the additional info. very informative. I am new to learning about coil overs also. Just ordered up the EVO Enforcer, already making plans for coil overs
Great choice! In fact the owner of Off Road Evolution has a JK that runs the enforcer set up and the JK is named the "Red Rocket". So it seems very fitting for you!
Old 05-20-2012, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wayoflife
coil over cons:

• requires periodic maintenance that should be done by the manufacturer
I would love more details on maintenance required? What parts need maintenance and how often? How is the maintenance performed if it needs to be done by the manufacturer and you are out of state?
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Originally Posted by porters
I would love more details on maintenance required? What parts need maintenance and how often? How is the maintenance performed if it needs to be done by the manufacturer and you are out of state?
Most of the higher end coilovers w/reservoir will need some form of maintenance if you use them hard, so the harder you use your suspension the more maintenance is required.

Coils- They either work or they don't work. They can/will wear out over time, and you will notice them getting softer at some point. You can prematurely kill the spring rate of the coils by collapsing them over and over to the point when the coil winds touch. If this happens enough, the coils have now been stressed to the point when their labeled spring rate will no longer apply. Most coilover shocks are dual-rate coilovers, meaning they use two differently rated coils to come up with an initial spring rate, so this means two different coils per shock tower to replace.

Reservoirs (oil/nitrogen/valve shim packs)- A coilover with reservoir will also contain shock oil and be pressurized with nitrogen. The nitrogen wil not mix with the oil in the shock, but holds pressure on a dividing piston inside the reservoir, which in turn puts pressure on the fluid in the shock to keep it from cavitating. The shaft of the shock travels up and down inside the body of the shock, with a valve stack and piston on the end of the shaft that controls how fast or slow the shaft travels into or out of the body of the shock. So again, if you run your suspension hard, maintenance schedules will increase because shock oil needs changing, nitrogen needs to be recharged and valve shims may need to be replaced since they can weaken.

Tools- Specialty tools are required for rebuilding coilovers, you can always purchase the tools and learn to do the maintenance yourself. It really isn't that expensive to have them rebuilt by the manufacturer.


Don't let this scare you away from coilovers, it reads much worse than it actually is. If you are running the King set up provided in the EVO Double Throw Down, they are race spec shocks and for the average guy wheeling his rig on weekends or even less, he may not see a need to rebuild his his set up for years. Hope this helps out with understanding the intricacies of coilovers!

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Wol- question for u. I am shopping around right now for a coil over system. Maybe you can help. I have been looking at the Evo kit and the rock krawler coil over stretch kit. I have a 2 door and it is my crawler. What are pros and cons of the two together. Have u seen the two kits in action on a 2 door?
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Originally Posted by wayoflife
don't know who you've been talking to but clearly, they are people who either don't have coil overs on their JK or, are running a kit not made by off road evolution.

coil over pros:
• offers superior flex - as much as 14" of vertical travel
• offers superior absorbsion from high speed hits
• when dialed in properly - will offer superior ON ROAD performance and comfort
• fully adjustable (including ride height) and completely rebuildable
• valving can be set and adjusted to meet your ride quality standards
• 2 separate spring rates can be selected to help provide ride comfort and weight carring capacity
• can be run with additional triple bypass shocks to significantly increase high speed desert driving

coil over cons:
• with the exception of the new off road evoultion bolt on coil over system, they can be very expensive
• requires periodic maintenance that should be done by the manufacturer

some people say that it is very loose on the road and because it is sooo flexible for offroading use, the JK jumps up and down on the road all the time and its not comfy on highways.. is that true?
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Originally Posted by whitejeep

some people say that it is very loose on the road and because it is sooo flexible for offroading use, the JK jumps up and down on the road all the time and its not comfy on highways.. is that true?
Haha, READ what he has written... Coilovers are highly adjustable, so you can have the suspension ride like a Cadillac or a sports car. It's up to you how it rides. So the people saying that its "loose" either have steering issues or their coilovers need proper tuning/rebuilding.
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WOL or any of the coilover guys, i Might've missed it or it's in another thread, but what rear setup is good to balance out the front with coilovers, I love prerunning and would like to make the rear handle like the front if one was to do the coilover front?
Sorry to hijack momentarily.


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