jnabird333

Not sure why you feel the need to insult, but my experience is first hand. In fact, unless I have specifically stated otherwise, it always is. My reply was not toward any brand but rather toward a round tube in general. It's tough to argue that mud covered boots on a mud covered tube is less than ideal for a step. I never stated that the Ace Rails wound't provide protection, I merely stated that they are a less than ideal step.

Just out of curiosity: You mentioned that you replaced your stock plastic step with the ACE Rail. Do you also have a Rubi Rail? The Rubi rail takes up some space and makes the Ace Rail narrower for use as a step. This might impact your experience in using it as a step.

Your suggestion to use anti-skid tape is a good one and would likely help.

Please don't get me wrong; Many opinions from many people is what makes this (or any) forum great. I just think you could've shared your experience without insulting someone else or belittling their experience. (In this case me)

brighton

Sorry my apologies, in hindsight I could have been more tactful (i.e. less of a horse's behind). I do have the Rubi rails also, but I don't find they really take away from using the Ace rails as a step. In fact, they close some of the gap between the body and Ace rails. I've had adults with big feet and kids with small feet in my jeep and I've never heard any complaints, and it's a large step up for my short wife and kids with my lift and 35's. I don't know if it's the roughness of the powdercoating, or maybe the Ace tube is thicker than some others, but it just hasn't been a problem.

I don't have direct knowledge of this, but I've heard some say that the Ace rails can flex enough in some extreme situations to push into the tub, and the Rubi rails can provide some additional protection. I haven't been on the type of extreme trails to encounter this phenomenon, so it may be just one of those internet rumors. In any case, the Ace rails along with the Rubi rails have been on my jeep for 3 years and I love the combination. It's saved me from damage on a number of occasions on rocks, tree stumps, etc. The Ace rails do reduce clearance by a slight amount, so that might be a factor for the extreme rock crawlers.

brighton

I usually wear hiking boots when off-roading, sandals most of the year (I'm in Florida after all), and dress shoes for work most days. I can't even begin to describe all the types of shoes, sandals, and flip-flops my wife and kids wear. I really wonder if maybe the texture of the powdercoating is much different on the Ace rails versus some others.

jnabird333

No worries It must be that time of the month because I think I over-reacted and made something big out of something that wasn't...

The rails that I banged my shin on did not have a textured finish. Is this something ACE changed? This happened on a buddy's Jeep. (While I've mastered the art of jumping in a Jeep on the driver's side without a step, I was uncomfortable getting in the passenger side. The result was comical as I failed BIG-TIME and turfed it face-down in the mud.) Anyway his Jeep is an 08' and he has had the rails as long as I can remember.

Edit to add: They have held up pretty well, and he runs his stock Rubi rails too.

JK08MCS

Early on I gave my Rubicon rails up after buying my Body Armor for a steps. They mounted to the pinch seam also, so I no longer could use the Rubi Rails. Now made up some bracket that welded up to the frame to mount the Body Armor steps. My question is how low from the pinch seam does the Rubi Rails hang? I'm just trying to cover up my pinch seam at this point.

PS: The Poison Spider might be another option

brighton

My jeep is in the shop getting new gears so I don't have it to measure, but the Rubi rails don't really hang below the pinch seam. If it is lower, it's a very small amount. As an alternative, I've heard that some have just bedlined the pinch seam to make it less noticeable. Don't know how much difference that would make with your black jeep though.

GreenJK07

Ace sliders and rubi rails. They have taken multiple hard hits and never budged. Ace makes some quality stuff!