On board water
#1
On board water
Ok I have an off the wall idea and would like some input before completing the build. We go to the beach a lot and with driving and camping on the beach means lots of sand in areas that we don't like to have for long periods of time so we would like to take showers. We primitive camp on the beach so there is no access to showers really so plans are this. I have a expedition cage with roof rack on my jeep and was thinking about mounting a 15gallon chemical sprayer tank that you use for a lawnmower or so on the roof rack basket that can be easily taken off when not needed. Also will have a 12 volt pump motor wired up and a shower or water hose with a disconnect on it so I can store the hose or shower head away. Also thinking of doing some kind of foldable shower curtain setup that will fold out and have some privacy when showering. Anyone know any Pro's or Con's to do this. I know it will be a pretty good amount of weight so I will be filling one up that I already have and used for spraying weeds as a mock up to find out dimensions before actually buying one. I would just like to get some input from others. Thank you for your time
#2
Water
I think it a great idea. I beach crawl all the time and it would be nice to get rinsed off before getting back in the Jeep. Problem with water is that you need a lot of it and its heavy as hell 15 gal would not be too bad 20 would probably be better. I don't think you would need a pump. Gravity would be your friend having it on the roof. Let us know how the build go's. I really like the Roof idea.
#4
This isn't an answer to the question you asked, but on my '12 I converted the stock rear bumper to a water tank; it holds about 7.5 gallons. The bumper is hollow; you just need to plug 4 small holes and install a valve and a fill plug. Mine is just a gravity fed outlet (a gas valve), and it's great for extra water for camping. But one guy did a nice writeup about 3 years ago where he had an electric pump behind the bumper and used it for showers and hosing off his rig.
#5
I do a lot of expedition away from civilization anywhere from 9-12 days with no provisioning. I would never carry 15 gallons of water on my roof rack. I usually carry four 5 gallon containers inside the vehicle. Usually I save one 5 gallon container for drinking water (also carry 2 camelbacks and two 1 gallon containers filled with water). The other three 5 gallon container with water we use for showers. I have learned to never trust one container to hold your water. I had an incident during a trial run where my Front Runner brand on board water container that was 15.9 gallon started leaking. Luckily it was on a trial run and close to a town. If this had happened far way in the middle of Utah's Canyon Land I would have had to cut the trip short.
#7
I wouldn't want that weight up there if I can put it lower, but if you're just driving down a flat, sandy beach the center of gravity shift may be moot. Taking off on what dwvninety wrote above, I carry three 2-1/2 gallon Aquatainers. That's sufficient for food, cleaning dishes, etc, for a few days. These fit nicely on the JK Interior Rack from Adventure Trailers (only fits a JKU).
If you're not carrying passengers, then you might be interested in how we handle showers: I carry a 10 gallon Frontrunner bladder (hard plastic) on the floor between the front and rear seats. I have an on-demand pump and plastic hose running to it with some valves to control which half (over the center hump) of the bladder is drained. A friend with whom I travel on these long trips carries a propane powered water heater with shower head (not sure brand), and a privacy tent from Cabella's--useful for showers and the pooper (some areas I travel require that you carry and use a pooper to catch and carry out your, well, poop). Being you're on the beach, having hot water may not be necessary. But, we travel in all seasons and weather, so hot water means we'll really take a shower when it's near freezing and we've been without for a couple days. If we're really careful with water use, a person can get a quick shower with one gallon of water. Of course, if you have folks in the back seat or you own a two door, this isn't going to work for you.
If I feel I need even more water, I also have a couple MSR dromedaries I can fill and, since they are very flexible and tough, can stuff various places--each of them is 2 gallons.
If you're not carrying passengers, then you might be interested in how we handle showers: I carry a 10 gallon Frontrunner bladder (hard plastic) on the floor between the front and rear seats. I have an on-demand pump and plastic hose running to it with some valves to control which half (over the center hump) of the bladder is drained. A friend with whom I travel on these long trips carries a propane powered water heater with shower head (not sure brand), and a privacy tent from Cabella's--useful for showers and the pooper (some areas I travel require that you carry and use a pooper to catch and carry out your, well, poop). Being you're on the beach, having hot water may not be necessary. But, we travel in all seasons and weather, so hot water means we'll really take a shower when it's near freezing and we've been without for a couple days. If we're really careful with water use, a person can get a quick shower with one gallon of water. Of course, if you have folks in the back seat or you own a two door, this isn't going to work for you.
If I feel I need even more water, I also have a couple MSR dromedaries I can fill and, since they are very flexible and tough, can stuff various places--each of them is 2 gallons.
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#8
Thank you for all your fast responses. My jeep is log cog with no lift and 35"s so my center of gravity is very low compared to those that are lifted with taller tires. And like I said before it will more or less we used as a shower for the beach trips. I have looked into other shower systems such and the rear bumper deal but I have a full steel bumper with tire carrier so I can't do that. I was more or less picking the chemical tank bc it was 15 gallons which should be sufficient enough water for my 2 yr old, my wife and I to use just for showers. We wouldn't use it for drinking water, only showers. Also I like the fact it's already set up with a 12 volt motor and I can get one for less than $100 from harbor freight. And with it being on the roof rack it would warm up off the heat of the sun so they won't be terribly cold showers. Just an idea.
#9
I do a lot of expedition away from civilization anywhere from 9-12 days with no provisioning. I would never carry 15 gallons of water on my roof rack. I usually carry four 5 gallon containers inside the vehicle. Usually I save one 5 gallon container for drinking water (also carry 2 camelbacks and two 1 gallon containers filled with water). The other three 5 gallon container with water we use for showers. I have learned to never trust one container to hold your water. I had an incident during a trial run where my Front Runner brand on board water container that was 15.9 gallon started leaking. Luckily it was on a trial run and close to a town. If this had happened far way in the middle of Utah's Canyon Land I would have had to cut the trip short.
#10
Another option is this that i chose
iI just received mine . Its 20 degrees out side and road salt eeverywhere so not on my jeep yet or any rush but cool item ( This will work as multi use for me )
side mount jerrycan holder ( *can not included ) Retrofit~offroad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PffS7O6-Q4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9dKmBW5xY0
$ 159.00 but its definitely cool and can hold tools or amo box , water container , rotopax whatever or as he displays a shower if water cans or roto pax are your choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PffS7O6-Q4
side mount jerrycan holder ( *can not included ) Retrofit~offroad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PffS7O6-Q4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9dKmBW5xY0
$ 159.00 but its definitely cool and can hold tools or amo box , water container , rotopax whatever or as he displays a shower if water cans or roto pax are your choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PffS7O6-Q4
Last edited by jeepmojo; 01-22-2016 at 12:11 PM.