Axle swap prices
03-31-2015, 06:59 PM
#21
JK Freak
Lol i know. Thats why i got d80 axles and only the 5.3 L instead of the LS9 my brain kept saying to buy. I know me. I would be forced to test its full power and then fix the damage that WILL ovcur later. I limited my HP to reduce my damage potentials
03-31-2015, 07:27 PM
#22
JK Freak
Yes Mopar has a good deal for axles but I'm looking at 13k (don't hold me to this number it may change) for complete axles, steering, brakes, drivelines, and installed in your jeep with a 12 month 12k mile warranty, all the customer needs to do is drop off the jeep and pick a new set of wheels. As for axles they are very easy to find if you know where to look I by no means plan on taking this wholesale thats why G2, PR, TF, Mopar are using their own housings because the old D60 has not been in production for almost 20years so yes its not readily available but they are still out there . As for new vs old the new is bling, you get barging rights super strong. The old is proven it uses off the shelf parts from any parts house coast to coast, super strong with stronger options available, the after market supports them better more lockers, axle shafts chromoly and 300m axle shafts, knuckles and inner c's, covers, steering arms- crossover, high steer, reverse high steer.
Maybe its the bad experiences i have had in the past that give me that reaction now thx to Autozone altinators and starters. The word warranty does make it better but they had that also and u were guarenteed to need it with those parts.
This is my personal problem and not urs.
When u add the driveline shafts and the install labor with warrantee, it does sound like a great deal. U dont have to convince me of how good the salvage parts are if rebuilt correctly. I believe u. Do i think new axles are bling only. No, well Some, but not all. Do i want to trade one chinese made axle for another chinese made axle-no
I do believe u get what u pay for. I looked long and hard on this forum and dont recall anyone saying "this dynatrac axle sucks" anywhere. (Right now some is doing just that to prove me wrong).
If u build those axles well and deliver on the warranty when a failure does occur, u will get the price u want for that upgrade. Old school stock axles earned their place. The newer stock axles impress me less.
Good luck in ur endeavor, i hope it works as u hoped and that u can turn a good profit. I want u to succede.
04-01-2015, 05:49 AM
#23
JK Jedi
Alot of people on here will likely go that route. They also have the time to waste figuring out whats wrong with it, the labor to repair it and figure out what year it is so they can find the damn parts to fix it only to find out its the wrong ones and have to go back and try again. Gotta order lockers because stockers wont have them. They also have the tools and the skills to set up ring and pinion because its never a matching gear set to the other axle.
Dynatracs are a proven, turn key system with a warranty. Also built with better components, not the cheapest vendor at time of production like stock parts. Also made from USA sourced parts and materials. The housing and tubing is 2-3times more durable and has reinforcement in known weak areas that the stockers have. The center section has already been undercut to improve clearance.
Thats why. Cheaper is usually just that, cheaper. These guys specialise in axles. Im done with building junkyard heros that i have to keep fixing my fixes. I want bulletproof reliability and durability and im willing to spend damn near whatever it takes to get what i want.
Last edited by Maertz; 04-01-2015 at 05:52 AM.
04-01-2015, 06:19 AM
#24
JK Junkie
Yes Mopar has a good deal for axles but I'm looking at 13k (don't hold me to this number it may change) for complete axles, steering, brakes, drivelines, and installed in your jeep with a 12 month 12k mile warranty, all the customer needs to do is drop off the jeep and pick a new set of wheels. As for axles they are very easy to find if you know where to look I by no means plan on taking this wholesale thats why G2, PR, TF, Mopar are using their own housings because the old D60 has not been in production for almost 20years so yes its not readily available but they are still out there . As for new vs old the new is bling, you get barging rights super strong. The old is proven it uses off the shelf parts from any parts house coast to coast, super strong with stronger options available, the after market supports them better more lockers, axle shafts chromoly and 300m axle shafts, knuckles and inner c's, covers, steering arms- crossover, high steer, reverse high steer.
04-01-2015, 06:52 AM
#25
JK Freak
Up here in Canada a dealership quoted me $15,200 USD for the Mopar 60s. That's without our 13% tax and all the others pieces needed mentioned above.
Jeep JK parts are expensive in the states but in Canada it's just outrageous.
Jeep JK parts are expensive in the states but in Canada it's just outrageous.
04-01-2015, 06:53 AM
#26
JK Freak
I get your side but the whole cheaper is cheaper to me isnt necessarily true. Many koh/dirt riot competitors run 14 bolts and such. Parts are easier to find usually and for what 99 percent of people need an axle to do its overkill so why pay a ton more when a 14b or sterlings may be plenty and cost half? If money is no concern then id debate it but to many people it is.
If u are shopping for ready to install units only-not do all the fab work to make it fit but they are turn key.
20 yr old used but rebuilt and cleaned up d60 axle set installed with 12 month/12k miles warranty for around 13k
Or mopar brand new d60 set ready to bolt in also with a warranty for around 11k plus install labor. Install labor will prolly bring price to same as other option.
Of ONLY these two options, which one would u choose?
How much cheaper would one have to be than the other for it to be the better option? Thats what i was getting at.
I know that 20 yrs of abuse and stress on a housing can make for interesting results. Stress cracks, bent tubes, bent c's, ovaled or deformed ball joint/king pin holes. All of that has to be investigated and corrected if present and the correction is as only good as the persons skills who fixed it or missed it.
I was comparing apples to apples.
U start talking sterlings and 14b, which i believe are even more stout than d60, then my discussion is no longer relevant because it is no longer an apples to apples discussion.
As far as people getting more axle than they need, yep. Ur right. Buying less axle than u need doesnt make sense. Buying an axle that is juuuussssttt good enough is fine unless u change ur build later or ur driving style and now what u have may no longer be adequate.(forgive my spelling-its not my best skill! Lol). When and if i sell my jeep, the axles will be transfered to my new jeep, so i am planning for a future jeep that may be bigger and heavier(prolly an aev brute truck model)
Last statement. U refered to why pay tons for a new unit vs getting a used sterling or 14b.
The sterling or 14b is only cheaper if u are doing all the work to modify and rebuilt it urself. If u dont have the time or desire to do that kind of work, that means u have to pay someone else-a shop most likely, to so all that rebuild and modification pls the parts to do it for u. Is it still SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper then...i doubt it. Is it cheaper than what i bought, yes most likely. I bought what i wanted, not just what i needed.
If ur asking me if i look down on who install rebuilt axles-i certainly do not. I have great respect for them, i know the amount of work that went into that project. Alot. Work i had no desire to go thru. I just want to pay more and have it ready to go now and basically lazyness costs more money.
04-01-2015, 07:22 AM
#27
JK Enthusiast
My point i was getting to got lost in all my wording
If u are shopping for ready to install units only-not do all the fab work to make it fit but they are turn key.
20 yr old used but rebuilt and cleaned up d60 axle set installed with 12 month/12k miles warranty for around 13k
Or mopar brand new d60 set ready to bolt in also with a warranty for around 11k plus install labor. Install labor will prolly bring price to same as other option.
Of ONLY these two options, which one would u choose?
How much cheaper would one have to be than the other for it to be the better option? Thats what i was getting at.
I know that 20 yrs of abuse and stress on a housing can make for interesting results. Stress cracks, bent tubes, bent c's, ovaled or deformed ball joint/king pin holes. All of that has to be investigated and corrected if present and the correction is as only good as the persons skills who fixed it or missed it.
I was comparing apples to apples.
U start talking sterlings and 14b, which i believe are even more stout than d60, then my discussion is no longer relevant because it is no longer an apples to apples discussion.
As far as people getting more axle than they need, yep. Ur right. Buying less axle than u need doesnt make sense. Buying an axle that is juuuussssttt good enough is fine unless u change ur build later or ur driving style and now what u have may no longer be adequate.(forgive my spelling-its not my best skill! Lol). When and if i sell my jeep, the axles will be transfered to my new jeep, so i am planning for a future jeep that may be bigger and heavier(prolly an aev brute truck model)
Last statement. U refered to why pay tons for a new unit vs getting a used sterling or 14b.
The sterling or 14b is only cheaper if u are doing all the work to modify and rebuilt it urself. If u dont have the time or desire to do that kind of work, that means u have to pay someone else-a shop most likely, to so all that rebuild and modification pls the parts to do it for u. Is it still SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper then...i doubt it. Is it cheaper than what i bought, yes most likely. I bought what i wanted, not just what i needed.
If ur asking me if i look down on who install rebuilt axles-i certainly do not. I have great respect for them, i know the amount of work that went into that project. Alot. Work i had no desire to go thru. I just want to pay more and have it ready to go now and basically lazyness costs more money.
If u are shopping for ready to install units only-not do all the fab work to make it fit but they are turn key.
20 yr old used but rebuilt and cleaned up d60 axle set installed with 12 month/12k miles warranty for around 13k
Or mopar brand new d60 set ready to bolt in also with a warranty for around 11k plus install labor. Install labor will prolly bring price to same as other option.
Of ONLY these two options, which one would u choose?
How much cheaper would one have to be than the other for it to be the better option? Thats what i was getting at.
I know that 20 yrs of abuse and stress on a housing can make for interesting results. Stress cracks, bent tubes, bent c's, ovaled or deformed ball joint/king pin holes. All of that has to be investigated and corrected if present and the correction is as only good as the persons skills who fixed it or missed it.
I was comparing apples to apples.
U start talking sterlings and 14b, which i believe are even more stout than d60, then my discussion is no longer relevant because it is no longer an apples to apples discussion.
As far as people getting more axle than they need, yep. Ur right. Buying less axle than u need doesnt make sense. Buying an axle that is juuuussssttt good enough is fine unless u change ur build later or ur driving style and now what u have may no longer be adequate.(forgive my spelling-its not my best skill! Lol). When and if i sell my jeep, the axles will be transfered to my new jeep, so i am planning for a future jeep that may be bigger and heavier(prolly an aev brute truck model)
Last statement. U refered to why pay tons for a new unit vs getting a used sterling or 14b.
The sterling or 14b is only cheaper if u are doing all the work to modify and rebuilt it urself. If u dont have the time or desire to do that kind of work, that means u have to pay someone else-a shop most likely, to so all that rebuild and modification pls the parts to do it for u. Is it still SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper then...i doubt it. Is it cheaper than what i bought, yes most likely. I bought what i wanted, not just what i needed.
If ur asking me if i look down on who install rebuilt axles-i certainly do not. I have great respect for them, i know the amount of work that went into that project. Alot. Work i had no desire to go thru. I just want to pay more and have it ready to go now and basically lazyness costs more money.