ARB Locker Issue - sticking? leak? defective?
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Recently had ARBs installed in my 2011 JKU sport. I'm having an issue with the front locker and would appreciate any help figuring it out.
First noticed it the other morning trying to climb out of a parking spot that I was really snowed/plowed into (I know, not the most exciting situation..... but I wanted to try them out). The compressor turned on normally for a second or two. I engaged the rear locker and the compressor came on for another second. Turned on the front locker, and the compressor started turning on for a short burst every 10 seconds. If I gave it any gas, the compressor would run almost continuously. Also, I noticed an oil smell as the compressor was running. The smell went away when the compressor stopped.
I shut the front locker off, got out of the spot, and then tried them again about 15 minutes down the road. The situation was completely resolved. Compressor filled the lines quickly and then didn't run again. The lockers both worked fine - no smell.
Tried it again this morning... same thing. Near continuous running and smell, then completely fine after some driving. Leaving work this afternoon (temp about 20 degrees warmer than the morning), the compressor ran as normal, kicked on once about 30 seconds later, and then was completely fine.
The mechanic who did the work said he was happy to look at it.... but he's pretty far from me. I'd like to try whatever problem solving I can on my own.
I'm not sure if I'm dealing with an air leak, sticking locker, or something worse. It was 25 degrees or less out both times that the problem occurred, and the diff oil was definitely not warmed up. The smell worries me most..... the air compressor and solenoids are located on the drivers side firewall, so is the extended breather tube for the front axle. Could the smell be coming through the solenoid vents, or is it leaking through the diff and being forced out through the breather? I have used the compressor to fill tires with no smell at all.
I'd appreciate any thoughts or suggestions....
Thanks
First noticed it the other morning trying to climb out of a parking spot that I was really snowed/plowed into (I know, not the most exciting situation..... but I wanted to try them out). The compressor turned on normally for a second or two. I engaged the rear locker and the compressor came on for another second. Turned on the front locker, and the compressor started turning on for a short burst every 10 seconds. If I gave it any gas, the compressor would run almost continuously. Also, I noticed an oil smell as the compressor was running. The smell went away when the compressor stopped.
I shut the front locker off, got out of the spot, and then tried them again about 15 minutes down the road. The situation was completely resolved. Compressor filled the lines quickly and then didn't run again. The lockers both worked fine - no smell.
Tried it again this morning... same thing. Near continuous running and smell, then completely fine after some driving. Leaving work this afternoon (temp about 20 degrees warmer than the morning), the compressor ran as normal, kicked on once about 30 seconds later, and then was completely fine.
The mechanic who did the work said he was happy to look at it.... but he's pretty far from me. I'd like to try whatever problem solving I can on my own.
I'm not sure if I'm dealing with an air leak, sticking locker, or something worse. It was 25 degrees or less out both times that the problem occurred, and the diff oil was definitely not warmed up. The smell worries me most..... the air compressor and solenoids are located on the drivers side firewall, so is the extended breather tube for the front axle. Could the smell be coming through the solenoid vents, or is it leaking through the diff and being forced out through the breather? I have used the compressor to fill tires with no smell at all.
I'd appreciate any thoughts or suggestions....
Thanks
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Recently had ARBs installed in my 2011 JKU sport. I'm having an issue with the front locker and would appreciate any help figuring it out.
First noticed it the other morning trying to climb out of a parking spot that I was really snowed/plowed into (I know, not the most exciting situation..... but I wanted to try them out). The compressor turned on normally for a second or two. I engaged the rear locker and the compressor came on for another second. Turned on the front locker, and the compressor started turning on for a short burst every 10 seconds. If I gave it any gas, the compressor would run almost continuously. Also, I noticed an oil smell as the compressor was running. The smell went away when the compressor stopped.
I shut the front locker off, got out of the spot, and then tried them again about 15 minutes down the road. The situation was completely resolved. Compressor filled the lines quickly and then didn't run again. The lockers both worked fine - no smell.
Tried it again this morning... same thing. Near continuous running and smell, then completely fine after some driving. Leaving work this afternoon (temp about 20 degrees warmer than the morning), the compressor ran as normal, kicked on once about 30 seconds later, and then was completely fine.
The mechanic who did the work said he was happy to look at it.... but he's pretty far from me. I'd like to try whatever problem solving I can on my own.
I'm not sure if I'm dealing with an air leak, sticking locker, or something worse. It was 25 degrees or less out both times that the problem occurred, and the diff oil was definitely not warmed up. The smell worries me most..... the air compressor and solenoids are located on the drivers side firewall, so is the extended breather tube for the front axle. Could the smell be coming through the solenoid vents, or is it leaking through the diff and being forced out through the breather? I have used the compressor to fill tires with no smell at all.
I'd appreciate any thoughts or suggestions....
Thanks
First noticed it the other morning trying to climb out of a parking spot that I was really snowed/plowed into (I know, not the most exciting situation..... but I wanted to try them out). The compressor turned on normally for a second or two. I engaged the rear locker and the compressor came on for another second. Turned on the front locker, and the compressor started turning on for a short burst every 10 seconds. If I gave it any gas, the compressor would run almost continuously. Also, I noticed an oil smell as the compressor was running. The smell went away when the compressor stopped.
I shut the front locker off, got out of the spot, and then tried them again about 15 minutes down the road. The situation was completely resolved. Compressor filled the lines quickly and then didn't run again. The lockers both worked fine - no smell.
Tried it again this morning... same thing. Near continuous running and smell, then completely fine after some driving. Leaving work this afternoon (temp about 20 degrees warmer than the morning), the compressor ran as normal, kicked on once about 30 seconds later, and then was completely fine.
The mechanic who did the work said he was happy to look at it.... but he's pretty far from me. I'd like to try whatever problem solving I can on my own.
I'm not sure if I'm dealing with an air leak, sticking locker, or something worse. It was 25 degrees or less out both times that the problem occurred, and the diff oil was definitely not warmed up. The smell worries me most..... the air compressor and solenoids are located on the drivers side firewall, so is the extended breather tube for the front axle. Could the smell be coming through the solenoid vents, or is it leaking through the diff and being forced out through the breather? I have used the compressor to fill tires with no smell at all.
I'd appreciate any thoughts or suggestions....
Thanks
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Mine wasn't shimmed tight enough when we first installed it. Under a load, it would lose pressure because the locker would 'rock' to one side and lose air. I jacked up the axle, engaged locker, and spun wheel back and fourth to gain momentum/tension on the locker. When it got momentum I could hear air releasing from the breather, and locker would disengage for a moment.
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Best of luck and keep us in the loop!
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one more thing..... Would any of those possible problems (air line connection to copper, breather, shimming) only show up when the diff is cold? It runs perfect when its warm.
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Yeah, I would second that statement. I have seen them act weird in cold weather with no issues in warmer months. Go through the checks for leaks like previously mentioned and start there. The tolerances may be off ever so slightly.
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In very cold temps it could be as simple as condensation in air line and selnoid freezing up a little. Deal with that
Sometimes with my big Rig, air dryer, air regulators etc...
Sometimes with my big Rig, air dryer, air regulators etc...
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^^^ exactly the reason I went with the OX locker. I use the locker more in the cold winter then in the summer.
Air lines freeze, especially if the compressor is pulling warm air. There is air line anti freeze but you'd have to talk with truckers who use that and deal with frozen air lines.
Air lines freeze, especially if the compressor is pulling warm air. There is air line anti freeze but you'd have to talk with truckers who use that and deal with frozen air lines.