AEV vs. Metalcloak
#32
I'll elaborate on this....
All kits are upgradeable in regards to your initial investment. If you buy parts that are adjustable for 0-6" lift then they'll be ready for your next setup.
"Upgradeable" is a marketing term and quite obviously it's working well. Surprisingly, the JK comes out of the factory with upgradeable suspension! You just ditch the coils (like most kits) and start adding other small pieces (like most kits) and then ensure your track bars are long enough (......get the point?)
Your wheels are also "upgradeable"- just add larger tires. Wide tires? No problem- add spacers. Boom- upgraded.
All kits are upgradeable in regards to your initial investment. If you buy parts that are adjustable for 0-6" lift then they'll be ready for your next setup.
"Upgradeable" is a marketing term and quite obviously it's working well. Surprisingly, the JK comes out of the factory with upgradeable suspension! You just ditch the coils (like most kits) and start adding other small pieces (like most kits) and then ensure your track bars are long enough (......get the point?)
Your wheels are also "upgradeable"- just add larger tires. Wide tires? No problem- add spacers. Boom- upgraded.
#33
Karl covered the "upgrade" part of your statement. If you are buying a kit based on that fact the marketing team at Rock Krawler gets another win.
You are making a decision based totally on hearsay and are regurtating that on to others without any actual knowledge of use of any of the products you speak of. Knowing about suspension comonents and how they interact with each other and the steering will go a long way to chooseing a suspension. Not just comparing kits.
My brothers cousin's wife's friend knows a guy that read on a forum somewhere where someone said rock krawler is the bestest kit out there that flexes like mad and the great thing about it is that it is upgradeable.
You are making a decision based totally on hearsay and are regurtating that on to others without any actual knowledge of use of any of the products you speak of. Knowing about suspension comonents and how they interact with each other and the steering will go a long way to chooseing a suspension. Not just comparing kits.
My brothers cousin's wife's friend knows a guy that read on a forum somewhere where someone said rock krawler is the bestest kit out there that flexes like mad and the great thing about it is that it is upgradeable.
#34
There is just something about this AEV kit I don't like. I run a very light modified Jeep. I run PS front bumper and MC rear bumper with TF tire carrier. No other weight in my Jeep at all. On some road surfaces it get a pretty sharp feedback in the steering wheel. Its almost like the stock CA's are binding and then rebounding. I think the CA's bolts were tighten while Jeep was on ground per AEV. I also think the springs are a little too stiff for a light Jeep. It handles pretty good, but I think it could ride better. I had an OME kit on my TJ and it rode better than my JKU with AEV. I like that MC uses OME.
#35
Karl covered the "upgrade" part of your statement. If you are buying a kit based on that fact the marketing team at Rock Krawler gets another win.
You are making a decision based totally on hearsay and are regurtating that on to others without any actual knowledge of use of any of the products you speak of. Knowing about suspension comonents and how they interact with each other and the steering will go a long way to chooseing a suspension. Not just comparing kits.
My brothers cousin's wife's friend knows a guy that read on a forum somewhere where someone said rock krawler is the bestest kit out there that flexes like mad and the great thing about it is that it is upgradeable.
You are making a decision based totally on hearsay and are regurtating that on to others without any actual knowledge of use of any of the products you speak of. Knowing about suspension comonents and how they interact with each other and the steering will go a long way to chooseing a suspension. Not just comparing kits.
My brothers cousin's wife's friend knows a guy that read on a forum somewhere where someone said rock krawler is the bestest kit out there that flexes like mad and the great thing about it is that it is upgradeable.
My brothers cousin's wife's friend knows a guy that likes to make himself feel good on the interwebs by bashing others.
Put some effort into your responses and help us uneducated folk understand your infinite wisdom regarding suspensions. Not saying you dont know your stuff but you sure havent displayed it here.
#36
Thats what I thought. You still havent provided insight into anything your just bashing what I said. BTW, never said RK was the best or flexes the most, said after MY research it's pretty much more complete than the AEV and certainly you can grow out the kit, understand you need to be in range from on set. i.e. 2.5" lift you can add more 2.5" components to make the kit more complete. Sure you can do this with various parts and manufacturers but why not just deal with one company?
My brothers cousin's wife's friend knows a guy that likes to make himself feel good on the interwebs by bashing others.
Put some effort into your responses and help us uneducated folk understand your infinite wisdom regarding suspensions. Not saying you dont know your stuff but you sure havent displayed it here.
My brothers cousin's wife's friend knows a guy that likes to make himself feel good on the interwebs by bashing others.
Put some effort into your responses and help us uneducated folk understand your infinite wisdom regarding suspensions. Not saying you dont know your stuff but you sure havent displayed it here.
Last edited by Maertz; 03-07-2014 at 09:25 AM.
#37
Might want to check out his sticky. Looks like he may have put a little "effort" into it.
#38
Just some first hand experience. I just installed my second Rock Krawler with Bilstien 5100's (first was a TJ, then i got JK) and both kits are a great upgrade from stock.
First kit was a 3.5" Flex for the TJ - It was stiffer than stock, but not jarring and handled great on the freeway.
Second kit is the 2.5" X-Factor for the 2DR JK - I've had it one for a few thousand clicks now and its much softer than the older 3.5" flex. It handles better than stock and I don't feel body roll or like I'm in a monster truck ever.
I have been in a MC 2.5" 2DR and i find it even nicer than the RK rides, but i've never been offroad in it. If your a pavement queen then MC are definitely very nice.
The Biggest difference between all the kits are the types of joints from what i can tell. I believe MC is onto something with the new Joint they have, but its too soon to be called tried and true. I want to see how they last, but so far they look like the Johnny Joint killer.
Space
First kit was a 3.5" Flex for the TJ - It was stiffer than stock, but not jarring and handled great on the freeway.
Second kit is the 2.5" X-Factor for the 2DR JK - I've had it one for a few thousand clicks now and its much softer than the older 3.5" flex. It handles better than stock and I don't feel body roll or like I'm in a monster truck ever.
I have been in a MC 2.5" 2DR and i find it even nicer than the RK rides, but i've never been offroad in it. If your a pavement queen then MC are definitely very nice.
The Biggest difference between all the kits are the types of joints from what i can tell. I believe MC is onto something with the new Joint they have, but its too soon to be called tried and true. I want to see how they last, but so far they look like the Johnny Joint killer.
Space
#39
Thats what I thought. You still havent provided insight into anything your just bashing what I said. BTW, never said RK was the best or flexes the most, said after MY research it's pretty much more complete than the AEV and certainly you can grow out the kit, understand you need to be in range from on set. i.e. 2.5" lift you can add more 2.5" components to make the kit more complete. Sure you can do this with various parts and manufacturers but why not just deal with one company?
My brothers cousin's wife's friend knows a guy that likes to make himself feel good on the interwebs by bashing others.
Put some effort into your responses and help us uneducated folk understand your infinite wisdom regarding suspensions. Not saying you don't know your stuff but you sure havent displayed it here.
My brothers cousin's wife's friend knows a guy that likes to make himself feel good on the interwebs by bashing others.
Put some effort into your responses and help us uneducated folk understand your infinite wisdom regarding suspensions. Not saying you don't know your stuff but you sure havent displayed it here.
The RK and AEV kits are really targeted to two different uses and if you are actually comparing the two lifts then you really don't know what you want or need. Comparing metal cloak to rock krawler would be more of a apple to apple comparison as they use the same type of set ups.
#40