4.88 gears ?? help
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Where you live does affect mpg's for sure and driving habits like how hard you like pushing on the skinny pedal. I've seen 17.4 many times on my lifted 09 auto JKU lifted 3" (closer to 4") 35" tires etc with 5.13 gears and a superchip. Some guys like to drive jeeps like race cars and then bitch about mileage.... not saying you're one of them..... just to clear that up.
#22
Originally Posted by hagausaf
you have to gun the Jeep to get over the hills and mountains here which is why my mpg's have always blown. But I was getting 10 mpg before my regear and ProCal so I'm not complaining about 14-15 mpg. Cant use the Superchips like you can on my '11 which sucks for power.
#23
JK Enthusiast
Thanks for the info - but i've hit a snag. My Diablo Sport tuner (U7137x) does not support flashing info for gear changes. Verified today, their tech line said that they dont have another product to help me either - he suggusted i call the jeep dealer.
So my question is: what tuner for the Jeep allows the user to change the gear settings? please mention the product cost if known.
btw - my mpg's have settled back down to 14's....
thanks & ridelots!
So my question is: what tuner for the Jeep allows the user to change the gear settings? please mention the product cost if known.
btw - my mpg's have settled back down to 14's....
thanks & ridelots!
#25
Thanks for the info - but i've hit a snag. My Diablo Sport tuner (U7137x) does not support flashing info for gear changes. Verified today, their tech line said that they dont have another product to help me either - he suggusted i call the jeep dealer.
So my question is: what tuner for the Jeep allows the user to change the gear settings? please mention the product cost if known.
btw - my mpg's have settled back down to 14's....
thanks & ridelots!
So my question is: what tuner for the Jeep allows the user to change the gear settings? please mention the product cost if known.
btw - my mpg's have settled back down to 14's....
thanks & ridelots!
#26
JK Enthusiast
Aldaman - thanks for the info on superchips
Last edited by ridelots24; 02-20-2012 at 02:38 PM.
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Ok - this may be a dumb question. I did change the tire size using my diablo. but does it make a difference if the jeep thinks its running 35" tires with my old 3.73's? or will it figure out the resistance is less with the 4.88's and shift appropriately?
Aldaman - thanks for the info on superchips
Aldaman - thanks for the info on superchips
3.73 / 4.88 = .764
So lets say your 35s have an actual measured height of 34".
34" x .764 = 25.976"
So if your Diablo will take a 26" tire you have basically trick phucked it into calibrating for your gear change.
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OK, so you went from 3.73s to 4.88s, if I have that correct.
3.73 / 4.88 = .764 So lets say your 35s have an actual measured height of 34". 34" x .764 = 25.976"
So if your Diablo will take a 26" tire you have basically trick phucked it into calibrating for your gear change.
3.73 / 4.88 = .764 So lets say your 35s have an actual measured height of 34". 34" x .764 = 25.976"
So if your Diablo will take a 26" tire you have basically trick phucked it into calibrating for your gear change.
This is how i looked at the math. i have tire size set at 34.50 or
Circumfrence of 108.38"
108.38/4.88 = 22.2" / revolution
108.38/3.73 = 29.05"/ revolution
difference of 6.8" / revolution
108.38"-6.8" = 101.58" tire circumfrence
101.58 / 3.1416 = 32.33" tire height to fool the computer that 4.88 is stock ratios.
this is fun to think about!
before someone posts the RPM / Gear ratio chart the difference between the two ratios' at 70 mph 3.73=1730 rpm and the 4.88=2264 rpm diff of 534 rpms. maybe i'm just wasting band with on JK forums.....even if i tweaked the computer, would the 4 speed auto even shift differently?
If you or others have re-geared (on an auto) then flashed the computer to reflect the change what difference did it make? mpg savings? shift points? when i talked to the guy at Diablo, he made it seem like i didnt need to bother with it.
I'm sure when this thread reaches the answer we will be at the nexus of the universe!
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Wow, that's a lot of math and a lot of it unnecessary.
Take the rpms from the gear chart, divide them out, you get .764
Take the gear sizes themselves, divide them out, you get .764
Take your inches per revolution numbers, divide them out, you get .764
Put the beer and the bong down, divide them out, you get .764
That's what you need to multiply your tire height by to get your speedometer correct in the absence of the Diablo having differential calibration. With having your speedometer correct you will shift at the appropriate speeds given your throttle position. Without it, you'll be short shifting an already under powered vehicle.
Take the rpms from the gear chart, divide them out, you get .764
Take the gear sizes themselves, divide them out, you get .764
Take your inches per revolution numbers, divide them out, you get .764
Put the beer and the bong down, divide them out, you get .764
That's what you need to multiply your tire height by to get your speedometer correct in the absence of the Diablo having differential calibration. With having your speedometer correct you will shift at the appropriate speeds given your throttle position. Without it, you'll be short shifting an already under powered vehicle.
#30
JK Super Freak
Wow, that's a lot of math and a lot of it unnecessary.
Take the rpms from the gear chart, divide them out, you get .764
Take the gear sizes themselves, divide them out, you get .764
Take your inches per revolution numbers, divide them out, you get .764
Put the beer and the bong down, divide them out, you get .764
That's what you need to multiply your tire height by to get your speedometer correct in the absence of the Diablo having differential calibration. With having your speedometer correct you will shift at the appropriate speeds given your throttle position. Without it, you'll be short shifting an already under powered vehicle.
Take the rpms from the gear chart, divide them out, you get .764
Take the gear sizes themselves, divide them out, you get .764
Take your inches per revolution numbers, divide them out, you get .764
Put the beer and the bong down, divide them out, you get .764
That's what you need to multiply your tire height by to get your speedometer correct in the absence of the Diablo having differential calibration. With having your speedometer correct you will shift at the appropriate speeds given your throttle position. Without it, you'll be short shifting an already under powered vehicle.
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