3" Lift Problems
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I agree with the fitment issue, it seems like everyone I've talked to that installed this kit had to do some work to get the outboard hole on the track-bar relocation braket to fit. I doubt this is an issue of combined tolerances as a previous poster suggested, since it always seems to be the same bolt hole that everyone has problems with, and always about the same amount of error. If it was just tolerance issues, there would be an equal amount of complaints for ALL the holes not lining up. I've only talked to about 3-4 people aside from myself who did this kit though.
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i understand your point wayoflife. maybe i was expecting too much from a "econo" kit. that is where i will stand with you. i expected it to be "correct" without driveablity issues. i guess i was wrong. and i will go ahead and correct the bolt fitment issue just to be complete with this lift analysis. if for nothing else to heed the warning for all others who purchase this kit. so they are aware of the fitment issue. and if it is a not an isolated instance then maybe FT will correct this issue on the next batch. if i lose this "wooble" after the bolt then i will stand corrected and at least the issue is understood and all others can make the same correction on the part. if not then hey i guess i have to get the "Upgrade" track bar to fix the issue.
oh and i got that information on the track bar and what it does from the sellers discription:
i assumed and maybe that was my error that it's main use was to make fine adjustments after extra weight to front end.
finally i quess only time will tell as other members on this forum or elsewhere install this lift and we see the results and ride quality opinions start surfacing. from what i have read i am one of a handfull so far including yourself who have installed this kit.
*Question just curious if you incountered any problems with the track bar relocator on the rubicon u did the walkthrough? maybe it is a non-rubicon model issue??? probably not the case but just a thought.
oh and i got that information on the track bar and what it does from the sellers discription:
Made from .300" wall DOM tubing, this track bar is so durable, it's the only one you'll ever need! Fully adjustable to fit the range of 2" to 4" kits. This is a great option for making fine adjustments to alignment after adding spring spacers, or extra weight from winches, bumpers, etc.
finally i quess only time will tell as other members on this forum or elsewhere install this lift and we see the results and ride quality opinions start surfacing. from what i have read i am one of a handfull so far including yourself who have installed this kit.
*Question just curious if you incountered any problems with the track bar relocator on the rubicon u did the walkthrough? maybe it is a non-rubicon model issue??? probably not the case but just a thought.
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This is the other thing to watch for when doing your research. No offense, but if you were to stop reading the above after "I don't have any issues with mine.", you would miss the fact that even though he doesn't think he has issues, the reality is that he does. He has bump steer. While he may not think it's a problem, others may read and get the feeling that a xx" lift can be installed with no problems. It may be something he can deal with (probably not since he is upgrading trackbar), but you may not like it.
I had the drill laying there anyway, so I just drilled it out and went on with the install, no problem. Not the end of the world. This guy chose another route and it *might* be what's causing his issue.
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*Question just curious if you encountered any problems with the track bar relocator on the rubicon u did the walkthrough? maybe it is a non-rubicon model issue??? probably not the case but just a thought.
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Given how perfectly all the other holes line up, I'm still inclined to believe this is a problem with the bracket. It's a minor one to me, but it did make the install take 20 minutes longer than it should have! (15 minutes of me trying to figure out if I did something wrong, 5 minutes of drilling and hammering)
By the way, I'm not trying to disparage this lift kit at all, I was otherwise totally happy with it. My only two complaints were the one misaligned mounting hole, and the fact that the instructions make it sound like the new springs will just slide on as easily as the old ones came off, when in fact I found that I needed a spring compressor even with the suspension at full droop. Otherwise, it has been great!
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My understanding is that those holes we're using to mount the bracket are from jigs used for assembly purposes. It's hard for me to imagine that the factory jigs wander all over the place like that. When you say it was off to the right, you mean that, before drilling it, you looked into the hole in the original Jeep part and saw extra metal on the bracket on the right side or the left? I think I may be confusing my rights and lefts
Given how perfectly all the other holes line up, I'm still inclined to believe this is a problem with the bracket. It's a minor one to me, but it did make the install take 20 minutes longer than it should have! (15 minutes of me trying to figure out if I did something wrong, 5 minutes of drilling and hammering)
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Given how perfectly all the other holes line up, I'm still inclined to believe this is a problem with the bracket. It's a minor one to me, but it did make the install take 20 minutes longer than it should have! (15 minutes of me trying to figure out if I did something wrong, 5 minutes of drilling and hammering)
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Okay, maybe I'm getting my lefts and rights mixed up too. Looking through the hole, I could see metal showing on the left side. The hole in the bracket was over to the right just a hair but enough to prevent the bolt to go through. I took a Dremel to the edge of the bracket and 2 minutes later, the bolt went right in.
I took like 200 pictures of the install intending to do a write-up, but you guys beat me to it. I still have all the photos though, hopefully I took one of that problem.
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anyways i am going to make that last bolt go in just to see if it corrects the wobble. but i just ordered the adjustible track bar suppost to ship out in the morning so. i will post all the results and picks asap.
sorry all for the venting.
i am afterall a noob to jeeps although i have admired them from afar since i was a kid.
and although i am not a total noob to wrench pushing this is the other end of the spectrim for me.
sorry all for the venting.
i am afterall a noob to jeeps although i have admired them from afar since i was a kid.
and although i am not a total noob to wrench pushing this is the other end of the spectrim for me.
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anyways i am going to make that last bolt go in just to see if it corrects the wobble. but i just ordered the adjustible track bar suppost to ship out in the morning so. i will post all the results and picks asap.
sorry all for the venting.
i am afterall a noob to jeeps although i have admired them from afar since i was a kid.
and although i am not a total noob to wrench pushing this is the other end of the spectrim for me.
sorry all for the venting.
i am afterall a noob to jeeps although i have admired them from afar since i was a kid.
and although i am not a total noob to wrench pushing this is the other end of the spectrim for me.
All this talk about lift kits has made me want to go under mine and retorque all the bolts, since I've had it on for a few hundred miles now. Good time to make sure all the parts I put on are still under there!
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