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3.21 -> 4.88: What should I expect to "feel"

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Old 03-08-2016 | 01:40 PM
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You will mostly notice it when your off-road in 4-low

i have a stick with 5.13 and 37's and it's great off-road, climbing hills and going over obstacles is a whole new world...I had starts with 3.21's

i describe it as riding around in a go cart or maybe a dune buggy

i have a sport and my on my short list is getting either a rubicon or Atlas II transfer case

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Old 03-08-2016 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDirtman
Not sure what you are calling a "downshifting feeling" but your transmission would actually be downshifting when slowing to a stop.
Yes, I realize that the transmission will down shift. I just never noticed it with the 3.21s. Is it normal to feel it at higher (numerically, ie 4.88) gear ratios?
Old 03-08-2016 | 02:40 PM
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Default I think the answer is yes.

I went from 3.21 to 4.88 on a 2008 X with manual trans. It seems to me the engine is reving higher to maintain the same road speed with the new gear ratio. You will feel the engine working harder at the same speeds with 4.88 relative to 3.21 gearsets. Just my 2 cents based on my experience.
Old 03-08-2016 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by therealmadc
I went from 3.21 to 4.88 on a 2008 X with manual trans. It seems to me the engine is reving higher to maintain the same road speed with the new gear ratio. You will feel the engine working harder at the same speeds with 4.88 relative to 3.21 gearsets. Just my 2 cents based on my experience.
The engine isn't working harder, it's running more efficient and in its power band. Yes, the RPMs are higher but that's where the motor wants to be.
Old 03-08-2016 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ShutterBug
Yes, I realize that the transmission will down shift. I just never noticed it with the 3.21s. Is it normal to feel it at higher (numerically, ie 4.88) gear ratios?
The difference you feel is the same as when you let off the gas in first gear, and when you let off the gas in third gear.
It is more harsh in the lower gear.
Now your automatic's downshifts are more harsh, or more noticeable.
Old 03-08-2016 | 05:46 PM
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That's what I thought. Just needed some other opinions to verify I wasn't nuts.

Well, I might still be nuts, just not about this.
Old 03-08-2016 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDirtman
Daily driving should not be that much different, starting from a stop will take less effort and you will handle most highway speed grade changes with downshifting. The jeep should feel a bit more sprite and I am sure your foot will adjust to the throttle over the first couple of weeks.

Off road is where it is really going to show, you will drive slower and in more control over obstacles and should feel more like a race car when you do want to get on the throttle, quickly raving and spinning the tires. You will not bog down on steep climbs or in the mud and will be able to power thru those things.
From someone that made the 3.21 to 4.88, I agree. Daily driving is much better whether it be city or highway. There are times still on my trips that I prefer to kick it into the on the fly shift on hills. This is only on a couple hills that aren't long ,but the Jeep loves to downshift (due to the grade) to give it more power, so I keep it from happening as it always does it at the peak of the hill where its about to end.

Off road is where the money is really at. I love crawling in this thing in 4lo. The dunes are awesome in 4hi, but I do the on the fly shift so I can control it from shifting to early and losing momentum causing me to get stuck going up hill and possibly causing way bigger problems. An LS3 would help solve that, but don't have the money just yet.

Swapped my gears out at 3k and never looked back, so glad I did it.
Old 03-08-2016 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PsychoCupcake
Really?!? Why? I have 4.88s and a Rubi transfer case and it's awesome for wheeling. I'm on the east coast as well but I mostly play in the rocks.
For the type of wheeling I do, first gear is more than low enough. I suppose I would just go up a gear with a rubi t case (ie: instead of 2nd use 3rd) so it wouldn't be a big deal.



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