1 3/4" toed out
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An update to the thread. With the tie rod as short as it can go I think I'm now toed in by 1/2". I'll double check when I can get another pair of hands to help. Since I was alone I kind of Mcgyver'd it by putting 2x4s along the wheels as straight as I could and measuring the distance between them. I'm not really going to trust that number though since if the boards are off even just a little it would skew the numbers. Also my drag link is now flipped but of course I broke the TRE getting it off so the nut can't be tightened down without the bolt spinning. I swear it's been one headache after the other getting this thing back on the road again.
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On a Synergy tie rod to get the most adjustment range be sure the non-adjustable TRE is screwed as far in as possible. That should give you plenty of adjustment to draw the toe into spec.
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An update to the thread. With the tie rod as short as it can go I think I'm now toed in by 1/2". I'll double check when I can get another pair of hands to help. Since I was alone I kind of Mcgyver'd it by putting 2x4s along the wheels as straight as I could and measuring the distance between them. I'm not really going to trust that number though since if the boards are off even just a little it would skew the numbers. Also my drag link is now flipped but of course I broke the TRE getting it off so the nut can't be tightened down without the bolt spinning. I swear it's been one headache after the other getting this thing back on the road again.
You are supposed to take the measument from the center of the wheel , so If you didnt have the 2x4 in the center of the wheel then you will be off
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^^^ Do This. When doing the measurement, you need to measure from the same point on the front center of the tire. Mark that exact spot, and rotate the tires so that mark is pointing to the rear, 180°.
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Whoa, this is getting ridiculous. You need to go get an alignment. This is a time when saving a few dollars will cost a lot more in the end. You won't get it right in your driveway. The result will be screwing up your tire wear, burning through ball joints and tie rod ends, and a poor driving vehicle. I've tried many times to align the toe on my Jeep. I was never even close once it was on a rack. Proper procedure requires you crank the wheels from side to side on the ground, etc. Suck it up and take it somewhere or this will end in regret.
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I have the same Synergy tie rod. I recently swapped in Synergy's TREs and needed to reset the toe. I did it with a tape measure, using the inside of the sidewalls. Set at 3/32s toe in. I took it to an alignment shop to get a snapshot of the overall settings, spec for toe is .02 degrees, on the rack my settings measured .022. You can do it with a tape measure.
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I have the same Synergy tie rod. I recently swapped in Synergy's TREs and needed to reset the toe. I did it with a tape measure, using the inside of the sidewalls. Set at 3/32s toe in. I took it to an alignment shop to get a snapshot of the overall settings, spec for toe is .02 degrees, on the rack my settings measured .022. You can do it with a tape measure.
For every guy that gets lucky and gets it right in their driveway, 10 are off. We're taking +/- 1/8".
However, given your level of confidence, I'm sure you will PM the OP and provide him a warranty on his ball joints and tires so long as he sends you a picture of tape measure readings in his driveway?
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Hold on you need to explain how you are measuring toe by yourself , because if I read what you posted above then you are not doing it right
You are supposed to take the measument from the center of the wheel , so If you didnt have the 2x4 in the center of the wheel then you will be off
You are supposed to take the measument from the center of the wheel , so If you didnt have the 2x4 in the center of the wheel then you will be off
Whoa, this is getting ridiculous. You need to go get an alignment. This is a time when saving a few dollars will cost a lot more in the end. You won't get it right in your driveway. The result will be screwing up your tire wear, burning through ball joints and tie rod ends, and a poor driving vehicle. I've tried many times to align the toe on my Jeep. I was never even close once it was on a rack. Proper procedure requires you crank the wheels from side to side on the ground, etc. Suck it up and take it somewhere or this will end in regret.
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Hmm... Considering it's toe in, something isn't right. Should be a negative reading. For every guy that gets lucky and gets it right in their driveway, 10 are off. We're taking +/- 1/8". However, given your level of confidence, I'm sure you will PM the OP and provide him a warranty on his ball joints and tires so long as he sends you a picture of tape measure readings in his driveway?
BTW, toe in is NOT a negative number. FSM toe spec for JK is +.17 to +.23 degrees. That's about 1/16" to 1/8" toe in.
Last edited by SoK66; 12-07-2014 at 05:59 PM.