Wish i got a rubicon
03-09-2012, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by joey2times
Jesus sometimes this forum is like a fucking middle school lunch period...
03-09-2012, 02:08 PM
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Wow what a cat fight this is....
To say that you cant do 37's on a D44 is stupid. Tons of people do, with no Sleeves or Gussets.
does that mean its smart? Nope... does that mean you have to do it? Nope...
People run 37's on D35's... and they don't do shit to the axle... sometimes it snaps sometimes it doesn't...
For people saying electric shit fails on the Rubi's I say "suck it" I am 30k on mine and I use the shit out of it and nothing is wrong with my lockers or my disco... Did I put in manual discos for back up? yup... why? because they came with the lift kit... did I then pull those out and put in JKS ones? Yup... because I was afraid of my edisco ? Nope... because the ones that came with my kit rusted and looked ugly... Haven't ever had to manually disco, prob wont ever have to...
Lockers? why would I upgrade something that works just fine?
Gears? Sure, my 4:10's aren't the best... but they work just fine for me... with a superchips I am ok with it...
Will I upgrade... sure eventually when the $ is there I will jump to 5.38's but do I have to? Nope... do I have to to run 37's? nope... will I when I go up to 37's yea prob... but its hardly a MUST DO.
The sticker is sooo cool let me tell you!!! it makes girls get wet and kids all point and say OOHHHHH!!! AHHHH!!! RUBIONCNNCOCN!!!
That's right they can't even pronounce it over the awesomeness that is Rubiconage (thats a real world btw)
So you saved 9k ?? well shit you got your X for what $22,045* 25,545* off the lot brand new? BULLSHIT.
*MSRP excludes destination, taxes, title and registration fees. Starting at price refers to the base model, optional equipment not included. A more expensive model may be shown. Pricing and offers may change at any time without notification.
You really think I paid 9k more then you did?? you must be out your mind... Its more like half that... 4,500 Bucks...
Ok so you Put in a PR44 (because you said you can make it better)
And lets use Northridge because it will have all the shit you want...
(we will cut the price in HALF later just to make sure you cant bitch about it being overpriced)
ARB locker (you said better and the case is made that elockers fail)
Mopar upgrade Balled Joints... (again you said better)
5.13 Gears in it (once again you said better there is no price difference in gears so 4.88's if you want... they don't do 4.10's)
Everything else - reuse factory...
Price: $3,799.95 - and FREE shipping lets agree.
Now you have a front axle thats better then ours - Agreed...
But you still cant disconnect - so lets add in JKS quicker disconects (they are about as easy as pushing a button)
$157.95
Now your front end is like our front end...
Lets throw that ARB locker in the rear so we are really even...
we will say $996.05 cus I think thats the one you would need (cheapest pretty much)
add in gears for the rear - Because I have no idea which set you would need here either to match all the rest of this bullshit up... I lets say we use the cheapest one... $195.48
not looking too bad... but you also want to make sure that you get the transfer case in there.... Because you want to be BETTER then us... $1899.95
alright then... lets think about this... you are going to need air to run those lockers...
but lets say that he gives you that for free... So you don't even have to pay for it...
Grand total? at this point with Free OBA and no tax and no shipping??? $7049.38
But wait... lets say that is 50% off day at northridge... 3524.69 $
Yea thats a fucking steal of a price...
ok now are you going to do the install ??
Lets say you know how to do every single bit of this... and all of your tools and helping hands are FREE! you didn't even have to buy anything else... .
and just to make it even, you got found 24.69 dollars in an unmarked envelope in your mail box!!
3500.00 to make your truck as good/better then a rubicon...
And ze little bebe jeebus only knows how many hours you had to dedicate to this... doing nothing but this... but you love that kinda shit... so that doesn't matter right...
Well the whole time you were doing this... I was also wheeling the shit out of my rig... and having fun...
You are right sir... I likely paid 500-1000 dollars more then you at the end of the day with that super sale and all that luck... but seriously do you think I'm upset about it....
If I had the time, tools, dedication, and pigheadedness... I would do just that... Buy a stock 2 wheel drive wrangler and go bat shit crazy... I still don't understand why you would buy a new one if you just planned on modding it out from the start to be better then a rubicon... or why you didn't buy 2 wheel drive (they are not hard to find/get).
But I work my ass off, for not a great paycheck, and on my down time, while I do enjoy working on my truck, I don't want it to be the only thing I do...
A rubicon made sense for me... I will be able to get to the level I want
lift tires protection and durability and all that shit - for a lot less in the long run...
I don't have all the access to know how, and tools, and friends to help, and 50% off sales...
and I didn't get bent over and plowed in the ass when I took her off the lot... so It was totally worth it...
I get what you are saying, and yes this long and drawn out, slightly insane explanation is ridiculous and full of holes and complete misgivings... but so is the rest of this entire thread... Not everyone starts at shitbox and ends up with Monster Rock Crawler...
I plan on sticking with my d44's and rocking 37s and yea maybe gusset it (a whopping 65$) but at the end of the day... there is a lot of reason for people to want a rubicon and a lot of reason for people to decide to go with an X... 95% of the time its because its what they can afford at the time... don't kid yourself its any other reason... Its like saying oh I bought an 328i BMW and put 10grand into the motor because that saves me another 3 grand compared to just buying an M3... you bought it because you could afford it and you mod it because you love it and the sport...
Why is everyone having who's got the biggest shlong discussions and talking about how sticker jockys are not as bad ass as build up from shit boX's...
I would bet my life that there is drivers that would embarrass both of you (and you all know who I am talking about on this thread) in a freaking stock FJ cruiser even if you took a offroad evo custom 100k rig... saying its the driver is just a retarded argument...
Jesus sometimes this forum is like a fucking middle school lunch period...
To say that you cant do 37's on a D44 is stupid. Tons of people do, with no Sleeves or Gussets.
does that mean its smart? Nope... does that mean you have to do it? Nope...
People run 37's on D35's... and they don't do shit to the axle... sometimes it snaps sometimes it doesn't...
For people saying electric shit fails on the Rubi's I say "suck it" I am 30k on mine and I use the shit out of it and nothing is wrong with my lockers or my disco... Did I put in manual discos for back up? yup... why? because they came with the lift kit... did I then pull those out and put in JKS ones? Yup... because I was afraid of my edisco ? Nope... because the ones that came with my kit rusted and looked ugly... Haven't ever had to manually disco, prob wont ever have to...
Lockers? why would I upgrade something that works just fine?
Gears? Sure, my 4:10's aren't the best... but they work just fine for me... with a superchips I am ok with it...
Will I upgrade... sure eventually when the $ is there I will jump to 5.38's but do I have to? Nope... do I have to to run 37's? nope... will I when I go up to 37's yea prob... but its hardly a MUST DO.
The sticker is sooo cool let me tell you!!! it makes girls get wet and kids all point and say OOHHHHH!!! AHHHH!!! RUBIONCNNCOCN!!!
That's right they can't even pronounce it over the awesomeness that is Rubiconage (thats a real world btw)
So you saved 9k ?? well shit you got your X for what $22,045* 25,545* off the lot brand new? BULLSHIT.
*MSRP excludes destination, taxes, title and registration fees. Starting at price refers to the base model, optional equipment not included. A more expensive model may be shown. Pricing and offers may change at any time without notification.
You really think I paid 9k more then you did?? you must be out your mind... Its more like half that... 4,500 Bucks...
Ok so you Put in a PR44 (because you said you can make it better)
And lets use Northridge because it will have all the shit you want...
(we will cut the price in HALF later just to make sure you cant bitch about it being overpriced)
ARB locker (you said better and the case is made that elockers fail)
Mopar upgrade Balled Joints... (again you said better)
5.13 Gears in it (once again you said better there is no price difference in gears so 4.88's if you want... they don't do 4.10's)
Everything else - reuse factory...
Price: $3,799.95 - and FREE shipping lets agree.
Now you have a front axle thats better then ours - Agreed...
But you still cant disconnect - so lets add in JKS quicker disconects (they are about as easy as pushing a button)
$157.95
Now your front end is like our front end...
Lets throw that ARB locker in the rear so we are really even...
we will say $996.05 cus I think thats the one you would need (cheapest pretty much)
add in gears for the rear - Because I have no idea which set you would need here either to match all the rest of this bullshit up... I lets say we use the cheapest one... $195.48
not looking too bad... but you also want to make sure that you get the transfer case in there.... Because you want to be BETTER then us... $1899.95
alright then... lets think about this... you are going to need air to run those lockers...
but lets say that he gives you that for free... So you don't even have to pay for it...
Grand total? at this point with Free OBA and no tax and no shipping??? $7049.38
But wait... lets say that is 50% off day at northridge... 3524.69 $
Yea thats a fucking steal of a price...
ok now are you going to do the install ??
Lets say you know how to do every single bit of this... and all of your tools and helping hands are FREE! you didn't even have to buy anything else... .
and just to make it even, you got found 24.69 dollars in an unmarked envelope in your mail box!!
3500.00 to make your truck as good/better then a rubicon...
And ze little bebe jeebus only knows how many hours you had to dedicate to this... doing nothing but this... but you love that kinda shit... so that doesn't matter right...
Well the whole time you were doing this... I was also wheeling the shit out of my rig... and having fun...
You are right sir... I likely paid 500-1000 dollars more then you at the end of the day with that super sale and all that luck... but seriously do you think I'm upset about it....
If I had the time, tools, dedication, and pigheadedness... I would do just that... Buy a stock 2 wheel drive wrangler and go bat shit crazy... I still don't understand why you would buy a new one if you just planned on modding it out from the start to be better then a rubicon... or why you didn't buy 2 wheel drive (they are not hard to find/get).
But I work my ass off, for not a great paycheck, and on my down time, while I do enjoy working on my truck, I don't want it to be the only thing I do...
A rubicon made sense for me... I will be able to get to the level I want
lift tires protection and durability and all that shit - for a lot less in the long run...
I don't have all the access to know how, and tools, and friends to help, and 50% off sales...
and I didn't get bent over and plowed in the ass when I took her off the lot... so It was totally worth it...
I get what you are saying, and yes this long and drawn out, slightly insane explanation is ridiculous and full of holes and complete misgivings... but so is the rest of this entire thread... Not everyone starts at shitbox and ends up with Monster Rock Crawler...
I plan on sticking with my d44's and rocking 37s and yea maybe gusset it (a whopping 65$) but at the end of the day... there is a lot of reason for people to want a rubicon and a lot of reason for people to decide to go with an X... 95% of the time its because its what they can afford at the time... don't kid yourself its any other reason... Its like saying oh I bought an 328i BMW and put 10grand into the motor because that saves me another 3 grand compared to just buying an M3... you bought it because you could afford it and you mod it because you love it and the sport...
Why is everyone having who's got the biggest shlong discussions and talking about how sticker jockys are not as bad ass as build up from shit boX's...
I would bet my life that there is drivers that would embarrass both of you (and you all know who I am talking about on this thread) in a freaking stock FJ cruiser even if you took a offroad evo custom 100k rig... saying its the driver is just a retarded argument...
Jesus sometimes this forum is like a fucking middle school lunch period...
03-09-2012, 02:09 PM
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Its just people justifying their purchases really, I mean price wars, build wars etc. Just buy what you think you may or may not need and use; someone somewhere is always going to have a bigger appendage than you anyway.
