Were Wranglers meant to be practical?
#21
Unless you have virtually no commute I couldn't see owning a JK as an only vehicle. I drive a Merc E550 4matic as a daily, and have a 2001 Yukon Denali that I use for towing or taking crap to job sites and hauling the dogs around.
That being said I still love my Jeep. Nothing beats it for getting out and exploring, it has styling that will never really go out of style, and it works great for the hot summer night trip through the Dairy Queen or Sonic drive through.
That being said I still love my Jeep. Nothing beats it for getting out and exploring, it has styling that will never really go out of style, and it works great for the hot summer night trip through the Dairy Queen or Sonic drive through.
#22
I think you'll find a lot of owners on here have JK as the DD.
Most of them aren't concerned about the practicality, mileage etc.
They bought the jk for other reasons and decide that it's fine as DD, or accept that its not practical at all and that's OK.
The avg person may think otherwise, but the majority of JK owners understand that.
Most of them aren't concerned about the practicality, mileage etc.
They bought the jk for other reasons and decide that it's fine as DD, or accept that its not practical at all and that's OK.
The avg person may think otherwise, but the majority of JK owners understand that.
#23
JK Super Freak
My JKU is the most practical vehicle I've ever own. It's a truck, it's an offroader, it's a minivan, it's a people pleaser, it's a taxi cab (mine seats 7), it tows, it's a chic magnet (my wife would've never looked in my direction, which led to a date, if I wasn't in a big yellow JKU- she drives it now though...hmm...), it has a lifetime warranty...
#24
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You are talking about economic, convenience, fun, and other factors. The wrangler isn't a particularly economical choice.
In my case, I wanted a single 4-wheel vehicle that was as versatile as possible to augment my daily driver, which is a motorcycle (well, three motorcycles actually). For 80% of my uses the motorcycle is very practical. However, every once in a while I need to tow a trailer, or drive off road through really lousy conditions, or carry large/bulky items, carry passengers, drive on ice, etc. I could have gone with a pick-up truck and a mid-sized sedan but having two vehicles wasn't as economical as getting a single vehicle that could do both of those things. I could have gone with a large (4-door) pick-up truck but they run about $50k for the features I would buy and it didn't make economic sense. I could have gone with an Audi 3, BMW 135, or similar and rented pickup trucks when I needed them...but most rental trucks do not have trailer hitches and those that do are very expensive so that didn't make economic sense either.
For me the Wrangler is extremely practical. So was my old LR Disco. Neither qualifies as economical, but given that my normal commute is done solo on a vehicle that gets 65mpg and cost me about $7K plus another $750/yr for taxes, insurance, maintenance, and so on....given that, I think I have economical covered.
#25
What is practical?
Want to pull an average size boat? Get a truck
Want to take the family along with the boat? Get a quad cab truck.
Want good gas meilage? Get a small economy car.
Want to get to work on snowy roads, when you live way out there? Get 4WD.
So far a 4x4 quad cab truck meets 3 out of 4.
Want a convertible? (Trucks and most, if not all, other SUV's fail miserably here).
Want 4WD?
Want to take the kids?
I had a 4x4 quad cab truck. I need 4x4 and the ability to take kids; plus, I might sometimes haul something like a mower or appliance. The truck got 12 MPG and didn't even have a sunroof (boring + expensive to drive).
Jeep Wrangler Unlimited: 4x4, convertible, hauls kids, can pull utility trailer, gets 18-19 MPG on same commute that truck got 12.
Every vehicle is a compromise. It could be very practical, but not get good gas mileage, get good MPG but not very fun to drive, be fun but can't take along kids.....
The Wrangler Unlimited is the best practical compromise for me; it may not have the best of every single category but has enough of all the ones that matter.
Want to pull an average size boat? Get a truck
Want to take the family along with the boat? Get a quad cab truck.
Want good gas meilage? Get a small economy car.
Want to get to work on snowy roads, when you live way out there? Get 4WD.
So far a 4x4 quad cab truck meets 3 out of 4.
Want a convertible? (Trucks and most, if not all, other SUV's fail miserably here).
Want 4WD?
Want to take the kids?
I had a 4x4 quad cab truck. I need 4x4 and the ability to take kids; plus, I might sometimes haul something like a mower or appliance. The truck got 12 MPG and didn't even have a sunroof (boring + expensive to drive).
Jeep Wrangler Unlimited: 4x4, convertible, hauls kids, can pull utility trailer, gets 18-19 MPG on same commute that truck got 12.
Every vehicle is a compromise. It could be very practical, but not get good gas mileage, get good MPG but not very fun to drive, be fun but can't take along kids.....
The Wrangler Unlimited is the best practical compromise for me; it may not have the best of every single category but has enough of all the ones that matter.
#26
JK Enthusiast
I miss having a truck sometimes. Carrying a 4X4 one day which was going from the rear drivers side over the passenger seat and out the passenger window pivited on the window sill and almost fell out the window while I was driving. That kinda sucked. I guess a roof rack would help too.
#27
JK Junkie
No but what is practical. My Tahoe seated 6 people comfortably but how often do you have that many people with you? My cadi looked and drove great but only on the road. My Jeep doesn't ride great but works awesome on Job sites has no roof and gets compliments every time I stop. I will always have a Jeep
#28
Whenever we get a good winter storm (and we've had plenty this year) Our go-to vehicle for getting out to places that we NEED to get to has been our JKU. The Grand Cherokee usually gets to stay home. It does pretty good on "snow covered" roads but it sits too low for some of the back roads here.
Our JKU pulls enough for our needs (a small trailer, couple of watercraft, snowmobiles, etc.) and does hold more stuff than our Grand Cherokee.
You'd be suprised at how many times the roads weren't plowed up here after a foot of snow. Some of us DO have to go to work in such weather
Justification and practicality are both subjective. I'm sure if I had 3 kids and all thier friends/ stuff to haul around, I would have to look at other options as neither vehicle we currently own would suffice. For our lives though, The Wrangler is plenty practical. The 2 door might not be the roomiest vehicle but I could have lived with it since we do have the GC. As for justification, the first drive home from Boston in some really terrible weather and the wife being safe was enough justification to own a Jeep. Isn't that really all that matters?
#29
I think you'll find a lot of owners on here have JK as the DD.
Most of them aren't concerned about the practicality, mileage etc.
They bought the jk for other reasons and decide that it's fine as DD, or accept that its not practical at all and that's OK.
The avg person may think otherwise, but the majority of JK owners understand that.
Most of them aren't concerned about the practicality, mileage etc.
They bought the jk for other reasons and decide that it's fine as DD, or accept that its not practical at all and that's OK.
The avg person may think otherwise, but the majority of JK owners understand that.
Everyone on this board is most likely a JK fan(atic). But the question of the OP, as I understood it, was if the JK was made to be practical and appealing to the general public. I don't think that is the case at all. From the standpoint of all vehicles, choosing one that meets needs best overall - the Wrangler is not, and hopefully never will be, practical. An F250 pulls loads and hauls stuff very well - but it is not practical. It is purpose built. The Wrangler is purpose built to perform off road. A GT Mustang is very drivable and fast, but is not a practical vehicle. Etc.
"Practical - of, pertaining to, or concerned with ordinary activities"
That isn't the only definition, but a practical solution to a specific problem isn't what anyone would assume you mean unless you throw in the specific problem. As in, "a Wrangler is a practical vehicle for driving through foot deep mud on a daily basis". In that case, the term works.
#30
JK Super Freak
When it comes to practical vehicles, I am hopeless I think (so does the wife). Practical vehicles = soon bored with it, to me. The few times I have bought a vehicle that got good mileage, was inexpensive, etc....I had to rip out its guts and/or jack the suspension and make it more fun (for me anyway). I could not even leave past sports bikes stock.
When it comes to anything with a motor and wheels, I cannot spell praccticaal (see?).
If my wrangler was ever practical, it ain't anymore. But damn...it is FUN!
When it comes to anything with a motor and wheels, I cannot spell praccticaal (see?).
If my wrangler was ever practical, it ain't anymore. But damn...it is FUN!