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Old 07-23-2012, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by fadeout
And does that count as involuntary manslaughter because you knowingly put the stinger on your vehicle with a full knowledge of it being an off road only tool? I'm not a lawyer obviously but am interested in this thread because its mainly why I never installed one.
That's a chance you take. It's like towing over the manufacturer's limit of your vehicle. After the accident, that point may or may not come up in court.
Old 07-23-2012, 06:46 PM
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The modular bumper may be a good idea. I really am not concerned with the legal/financial problems. But, if my choice of bumper killed someone.... thats a problem.
I pulled up next to a few sedans in the parking lot, and that stinger would go right into the drivers head....
I dont believe in the " drive safe and it wont happen" idea. If i T-Bone someone, it was out of my control.
i had the stinger on from saturday until monday and took it off.
It looked GREAT, but i did not feel good about having it.
Now, when i get to the point of tralering the jeep, then Stinger it is.
I have an option of straight trading for a MOPAR rock crawler bumper... but it looks kind of stock ( but made of metal )
I may just wait for my stock bumper to bite the dust ( or larger tree/rock )
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great subject and in another thread months ago i brought up this very scenario, what could be a very survivable accident could become something else entirely with a stinger and as much as i love the look i just cannot pull the trigger for this very reason . every lifted jeep ive seen with one aligns nearly perfectly at heAd level . i think also that trial lawyers would certainly key in on that fact
Old 07-23-2012, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by zedteamk2
The modular bumper may be a good idea. I really am not concerned with the legal/financial problems. But, if my choice of bumper killed someone.... thats a problem.
I pulled up next to a few sedans in the parking lot, and that stinger would go right into the drivers head....
I dont believe in the " drive safe and it wont happen" idea. If i T-Bone someone, it was out of my control.
i had the stinger on from saturday until monday and took it off.
It looked GREAT, but i did not feel good about having it.
Now, when i get to the point of tralering the jeep, then Stinger it is.
I have an option of straight trading for a MOPAR rock crawler bumper... but it looks kind of stock ( but made of metal )
I may just wait for my stock bumper to bite the dust ( or larger tree/rock )
I am really glad this subject is brought up and there are responsible jeepers out there worried about the subject. I just ordered a front bumper and am sticking to just the grill guard.

I understand the need for extreme offroaders needing one but doing it for looks and increasing the damage potential inflicted is a serious matter.

BTW, stingers just prevent forward flips right? Are there other offroad uses?
Old 07-23-2012, 07:48 PM
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Since I've never seen an offroad bumper designed to absorb an impact like the stock bumper I would worry more about the damage you are going to do if you hit the vehicle anywhere. That said, I would rather be hit by a stinger than a fully loaded cement truck. Can you sue the driver of any large vehicle for causing extra damage? Should semis be outlawed because they aren't as forgiving as a sedan?
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Wow I don't what to say about this thread , you guys are so worry about your stinger in a crash if that is the case then don't lift your jeep or put any steel bumper on it

Really think about it a 2.5 lifted jeep with a steel bumper is at head height in most cars , so even a stubby front bumper will go trough a window and still hit a person a full width will still do the same

When you hit a car from the side the persons head is going to go to side and come back towards the bumper

So basically it's just a what if thing
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Originally Posted by keithvegas
Since I've never seen an offroad bumper designed to absorb an impact like the stock bumper I would worry more about the damage you are going to do if you hit the vehicle anywhere. That said, I would rather be hit by a stinger than a fully loaded cement truck. Can you sue the driver of any large vehicle for causing extra damage? Should semis be outlawed because they aren't as forgiving as a sedan?
Lots of semi drivers get sued for carelessly wielding their weight around.
Semi trucks are indeed outlawed under quite a few circumstances, specifically because they are not as forgiving as a sedan.
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There is a difference when it comes to negligence or intent. If they can prove you put a reinforced bumper on specifically to do damage then you can be sued. If you run illegal equipment you can be sued. NV law makes no mention of bumpers and until a law is passed you can run what you want.
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This is a very interesting thread since I find myself with the same dilema. I'm about to pull the trigger on one of the new LOD armor-lite front bumpers but I can't decide between a stinger and a bull bar...
Are there any lawyers in this forum that can shed clear light on this topic?
Old 09-07-2012, 10:41 AM
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While the legal side is definately important, i was more concerned with the moral side of driving around with a stinger.
I'm going to go with one of the modular bumpers and just put the stinger on at the trail.


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