Poseur.....
#21
William, How much wheeling do you do? Ive trailered my last jeep from one end of this country to the other and hit tons of trails. I know that the key to keeping it on its tires is a lower center of gravity with good ground clearance. If you want to jack yours way up in the air, go ahead, it will really prove who the exact poseur is. Ill be out on the trails with my 33's or 35's and your top heavy show piece will be on the bunny trails. Think before you talk, or at least know who your target audience is!
#22
I bet you anything 75% of all Wrangler owners will stay onroad. Not necessarily those on this forum, but overall. I see hundreds of TJs and JKs where I live. None go offroad, they're parked in the neighborhood or hauling groceries every single day, even on weekends.
#24
I concur - well said. I currently own a WRX (until I get my 2dr loaded JK Sahara, that is!), and while I *MAY* have tested out its high-end capabilities once or a dozen times, I certainly don't do so regularly.
As for myself, I'm not buying the Rubicon model because I don't need to haul around several hundred pounds of extra "off-road" hardware that'll hurt my gas mileage, when in reality, it'll only go off-road on mid-level trails (at most, and even then, only if I can even find any around me) a few times a year. I do intend to do some mods down the line, but a lift and bigger tires is probably a few years away - a CAI and exhaust upgrade are probably more my speed for now, as the increase in power and fuel economy will make them worthwhile for me.
Am I a poseur? I don't think so - I'll go off-road when the opportunity presents itself, but am not trying to make my Jeep a dedicated rock-crawler. For me, it's about the freedom of open-air driving, coupled with the go-anywhere capability that Jeeps are legendary for. Jeeps are an American institution, and one man's "pursuit of happiness" is another's "posing," I suppose.
IMHO, the original poster was just flame-baiting. :sad:
As for myself, I'm not buying the Rubicon model because I don't need to haul around several hundred pounds of extra "off-road" hardware that'll hurt my gas mileage, when in reality, it'll only go off-road on mid-level trails (at most, and even then, only if I can even find any around me) a few times a year. I do intend to do some mods down the line, but a lift and bigger tires is probably a few years away - a CAI and exhaust upgrade are probably more my speed for now, as the increase in power and fuel economy will make them worthwhile for me.
Am I a poseur? I don't think so - I'll go off-road when the opportunity presents itself, but am not trying to make my Jeep a dedicated rock-crawler. For me, it's about the freedom of open-air driving, coupled with the go-anywhere capability that Jeeps are legendary for. Jeeps are an American institution, and one man's "pursuit of happiness" is another's "posing," I suppose.
IMHO, the original poster was just flame-baiting. :sad:
Oh well, now its on to the trails. If only my jeep would be built, just leaves me more time to think lifts, tires, and other stuff to spend a bunch more money on. And I thought autocross was expensive... at least I won't have to buy a new set of tires each year!
#25
Why the heck would you wait 2 weeks if you weren't a poser? I had mine off road the day after I bought it, down into a nice little muddy trail. I would've taken it offroad the night we bought it, but it was late and we had to stop by the mall.
That post reminds me of the kid who kept talkin about his JK and it turned out to be his Mom's. William, enjoy your new Jeep! And I hope everyone else does too, however they want.
That post reminds me of the kid who kept talkin about his JK and it turned out to be his Mom's. William, enjoy your new Jeep! And I hope everyone else does too, however they want.
#28
go ahead and scratch your rig, I'll sit there in my $35,000 rubi and watch since I won't want to scratch my wheels....LOL....
any way a littel more serious, I do plan on using my JK for some light trail use but that's about it for prob a year, then after a few shoping cart dings from parking at the mall I'll ditch the 35's for 37's and start running it a LITTLE harder...I'll never actualy run it hard that's what the "wheelin rig" is for. oh yea since your not a poser you want to fallow me thru this little "trail"...(sorry for the crapy pic)
any way a littel more serious, I do plan on using my JK for some light trail use but that's about it for prob a year, then after a few shoping cart dings from parking at the mall I'll ditch the 35's for 37's and start running it a LITTLE harder...I'll never actualy run it hard that's what the "wheelin rig" is for. oh yea since your not a poser you want to fallow me thru this little "trail"...(sorry for the crapy pic)
#29
#30
Here's an interesting take...
Since I'm one of the apparent few who opted for the 4x2 version (hey...keep the hissing down over there! ), I would suggest that any trail work I may wind up doing would put me closer to the edge of the operational envelope.
Using the original poster's thought process, I could wind up being able to say affirmatively that I would, in fact, use my Jeep to its fullest potential. (I don't think I can go for all the lifting, 35's etc...my stock wheels and tires are just fine).
So I guess it is all in how you frame the question and the answer...
And I concur with the Curmudgeon...if I can find some hot gals who want to pose with/on my Jeep, you'd better believe I'll be all over that...
Using the original poster's thought process, I could wind up being able to say affirmatively that I would, in fact, use my Jeep to its fullest potential. (I don't think I can go for all the lifting, 35's etc...my stock wheels and tires are just fine).
So I guess it is all in how you frame the question and the answer...
And I concur with the Curmudgeon...if I can find some hot gals who want to pose with/on my Jeep, you'd better believe I'll be all over that...