+1. Take a chill pill dude.

 

I think JKs stopping distance is one of the worst in it's class. JKs do not exactly stop on a dime, so I can see how an accident like this could happen. This kind of thing could happen to anybody and the important thing is that everyone is OK.

Making a mental note to myself to put a little more stopping distance between me and the cars in front of me from now on.

 

Its a 4000 lb brick on wheels... its stopping distance is going to suck.. but hey.. shit happens. the majority of us have done something similar. Glad you are ok glad the JK is good.

Also here is a word of advice for Mr Motorcycle... DONT BE A DICK

 

He didn't say what he was doing not to pay attention to the road. And the story doesn't add up. Two seconds at 50 mph is less than 50 yards. Very hard to believe it was in a space of 50 yards that traffic comes almost to a stop from a 50 mph speed....no way. It was alot longer that he was not driving his vehicle.

By the Grace of God, no one was hurt, and all I've done is shown how easily that could have been otherwise. Still given the damage to other vehicles, and how his screw up has cost those drivers a great deal of grief, his concern for his Jeep is sadly misplaced.

Yes cagers suck, because their driving absolutely sucks. Ride a scoot for a day and then talk to me.

This isn't rocket science, if you have an at fault wreck you ought to carefully rethink just how poor a driver you are and fix that so it never happens again. And no it doesn't happen to everyone.....lots of folks drive hundreds of thousands of miles in life completely accident free. 1st because they take responsibility for their driving, every single second they are diving such a massive weapon, and two they watch very carefully for the smucks who don't and cause so much pain to everyone else.

I don't have to guess to see what character in this play you cast as. Making an excuse for someone's at fault wreck makes you an enabler.....great achievement there....

The Big Boo

 

You've got some Jetta ontop of your bumper...

Jeep does look good, but you always gotta pay attention..

people are nuts behind the wheel sometimes. Many of them have no idea where they're going or what they're doing.

 

with over 250 million registered vehicles in the states, a few of them are bound to bump into each other from time to time.... I guess since you're a perfect driver and have never ever taken your eye off the road or ever violated and road laws we should ALL be asking YOU for advice on how to be a better driver

it was an accident.... if there were a bike in the middle then the condition of my jeep would have been the last thing on my mind. "screwed up big time"? nobody was hurt, everyone got out with simles because they were okay and everyone drove their vehicles home, nothing more than a little body damage.... accidents happen, get over yourself. I've had a bike for years, I was riding before I could get a drivers license. When you get on a bike YOU need to pay more attention to the road and watch your surroundings more, people in a car aren't going to pay you any attention unless they ride too.

I didn't stop (fast enough) because I didn't see brake lights. I wasn't paying attention for a couple of seconds, it happens when you drive the exact same road everyday for years. I didn't go out looking for someone to rear end, I wasn't on a mission to ruin 4 other peoples day so why should I walk for a year. I'm sure you don't pay attention to the road and keep your hands at 10 and 2 100% of the time you're in your vehicle or on your bike, sometimes you have other stuff on your mind and you get distracted... accidents like this just go to show it only takes a second.

and no, I wasn't on my phone.... hit a small bump in the road and my coffee got knocked over. It may have been more than 2 seconds but I didn't have a stopwatch and everything happed so fast I don't know the exact speed I was going, just know it was under the speed limit.

you make it sound like I killed a baby and the only thing I'm worried about is my Jeep.... no one was hurt and I'm taking the girl I hit out for drinks (we're getting a cab )



well that's that....

as far as stopping distance, that's the biggest thing I've had to get use to when making the switch from the XJ, it doesn't stop on a dime but it stopped much faster than the JK. Ford 8.8 out back with disc brakes and steel braided brake lines all around it stopped pretty fast for being so heavy (bumpers/skids/tires/etc) I would say it stops faster than the JK. Don't know if the wheelbase helps with stopping distance or the no ABS and large tires (33x12.5 GY silent Armour) that are extremely hard to lock up.


All that being said, I used to text a lot while driving and talk on the phone (not this time) and now I put my phone in my glove box, started doing the 3 second rule when following someone and leaving at least a half car length in front of vehicles stopped in front of me. I got comfortable driving on the same roads everyday for so long and thought "that'll never happen to me" now i think "it only takes a second" haha

 

SWEET! Take some pictures and post them in the "jk and hot girlfriend/wife" thread!

 

Basically I lost my 'safe driver discount' which was like $80 ish a year so it's not to bad. I thought progressive had accident forgiveness starting the day you sign up? Not sure. I think most companies (not mine) offer it now if you're a 'safe' driver but I'm sure there's some kinda catch...

 

You're still full of yourself and not willing to admit you totally screwed up. That's what I llke about cagers nowdays...they have more excuses than Obama....

At least you partially cleared up one thing. It wasn't an accident. You intentially bent over or did what ever you did to address spilled coffee rather than check road conditions or pull over.

Consider yourself lucky you didn't hurt anyone, next time you just might. One second longer and your speed might have been in the lethal range and with a direct as oppossed to a partial rear end hit.

Rear enders are at an epidemic. Mostly due to phones but distraction has always been the culprit. For someone in the car or cars in front, it's car damage. Because I ride past so many rear-enders, I always wonder what the result would be with a biker....bikers don't get car damage they get body damage.

A kid quickly looking at a map, a year ago, didn't see stopped traffic on a nearby freeway. Killed a mother and young child. What do you tell the husband? Hey cut me some slack man, accidents happen to everybody dontchaknow.

No they don't. They happen mostly to dolts who shouldn't be driving. And the kind of dolt that definitely shouldn't drive is one who makes excuses for the wrecks they cause.

You've cited lots of excuses: everyone tailgating, lack of stopping power of the jeep, accidents always happen....but some of those are factors not causes. The cause was you deciding that your coffee was more important than driving. Really a stupid, 16 year old drivers ed lesson mistake. Here's what you were taught and forgot: If drop a CD, spill a drink, have a package fall over....IGNORE it untill it is absolutely safe and you have pulled over. NEVER reach or take you eyes off the road in such an instance....there you go right out of the drivers manual as I remember it (40 years ago, and I don't think they have changed it).

Let's hope you fiigure out how to be responsible in the future.

The Big Boo

P.S. If you said you had planned this just as a way to pick up a chick...then maybe I could understand.

 

We can always test that out also.

Hey Motorcycle guy! Suck it