EarlyJk

Unless your vehicle of choice during the End of Days can float or fly your pretty much fkd. The way the weather has been the last 5 yrs with the tsunami an earthquakes dont think there will b much chance to pack shit let alone survive. Arizona just got a foot of snow last week! Thats fkd! Gonna go be a beach bum an enjoy my last 2 years on the planet.. Lol

Grant_T

Go rent the documentary called "Collapse" and you will get one view of the end of the world...at least as we know it.

In a nutshell.....the premise is that basically our world and virtually everything in it revolves around oil. Virtually everything we eat, buy, use, need etc. to live today is either made directly from oil, a direct oil derivative, or requires the energy of oil. We can't feed ourselves without oil as all fertilizers, pesticides, etc are all oil based.

As soon as world oil reserves run out, or oil becomes too expensive to support continued development....the entire world economy will completely collapse making the recent "recession" look like a "glitch".

If you are not in a position to grow your own food in a sustainable manner by the time that happens, ugly things will happen as people begin to starve.

It's an interesting watch....

RayHoliO

There's also an EXCELLENT video series on youtube called 'crash course' that details that possibilty, along with several others.. and it does so complete with evidence and facts.. pretty interesting stuff.. and difficult to refute.

I'll check out that movie.

mediocre69

Regardless of your motivation, this link explains the difference, hxxp://jalopnik.com/5248496/aev-j8-m...orbidden-fruit. Leaf sprung rear Dana 60, reinforced frame, and a diesel engine for torque to carry that much weight and/or pull it.

Rafi

just watched all the episodes the past few hours good watch

RayHoliO

Heh! Sweet! not many people can just sit down and watch it all at once.. my hat is off to you my friend.

him

I'm not a prepper/take a different spin on the whole bug out thing (roads are dangerous and uncertain at the best of times) but...

You can't get where you want to go and keep your jeep working as a jeep. Everything's a compromise and changing the compromise to get real cargo capacity takes away from the "heavier than a motorcycle, lighter than a truck" nature of a jeep. The closest you will come is adding air spring assists to dynamically bump the springs when you load up, and even that is limited.

If you want a truck, find yourself two surplus M35s ("deuce and a half" with multi-fuel diesel engines). 5000lbs cargo capacity off road (10,000lbs on), can go most places you'll take a jeep in an emergency and some a jeep won't reach, will run on diesel, Jet A, home heating oil, or even gasoline + oil mixed. Buy two because "two is one and one is none". The pair should set you back less than a stripped 2dr JK. Bolt on a 400g fuel cell full of diesel and you'll have a 4000 mile off road (maybe 5500 highway) range with 2200lbs of cargo capacity (7200lbs if you stick to pavement) left over for your TV.

However, if you don't need a truck you're a lot better off with a smaller and more fuel efficient vehicle.

wrangler07

Still bizarre...

him

One nice thing about the internet is how it exposes you to people with different values and circumstances. It's up to you to take meaning from it of course.

Here's a pic of what I was talking about:



Street legal and can be driven with a standard driver's license in most states. $8500 from this site w w w.easternsurplus.net/567.html

Find yourself a pair of those and you're good to go for not much $$$$$ compared to what you are getting. Spend another $10K or so outfitting them (fuel, fuel storage, tools/generator, 24v freezer/fridges, tents, etc) and when the yellowstone caldera blows you'll be ready to roll.

Plus they are handy utility vehicles with undeniable panache and... c'mon, 6 wheel drive!

Rednroll

I carried my 55" LED 3D TV home in this guy. Can't think of anything else besides the TV that I would want to take with me in an evacuation emergency circumstance.



I'm imagining if Wal-Mart is closed due to said emergency, then electricity is probably turned off....which means you aren't going to be able to get any fuel out of the fuel pumps.....I'm thinking maybe you might want to get one of those electric motors in your Jeep with some solar panels to keep her going. If food is hard to come by....then fuel is going to be 10 times harder to come by.