Be honest...Is the JK truly a "hard core" 4X4?
#31
#32
Are people seriously knocking the G-Wagen? Yeah it's crazy expensive, but they are incredibly capable. They are front and rear solid axles and have one extra locker over the rubicon with a total of 3. Not to mention the build quality over a Chrysler vehicle. They are all hand-assembled.
There's more to 4x4 than rock crawling folks. I'd take a G over my Rubi for serious overlanding.
There's more to 4x4 than rock crawling folks. I'd take a G over my Rubi for serious overlanding.
#33
to answer the original question- yes.
Why are we talking about the G-Wagen when the original question was about the JK?
1) Does your JK do what you intended it to do when you purchased it? I mean the "core" reason for why you purchased it?
2) Can your JK do this core purpose reliably?
3) Can you drive it "hard" doing its "core" purpose and still have it safely take you home at the end of the day?
If you answered yes to these questions, then congratulations, your JK is Hard Core.
1) Does your JK do what you intended it to do when you purchased it? I mean the "core" reason for why you purchased it?
2) Can your JK do this core purpose reliably?
3) Can you drive it "hard" doing its "core" purpose and still have it safely take you home at the end of the day?
If you answered yes to these questions, then congratulations, your JK is Hard Core.
#34
Originally Posted by troyboy
How do 3 lockers work? if you mean the transfer case, ours is already locked.
As for the person who seems to hyperventilating about how his sport destroys anything else on the road, talking about taking out mortgages, in a universal sense I'd much rather have a Land Rover or Mercedes over a jeep in any developing country, particularly most of Africa. Atleast you can GET parts for those vehicles there unlike for the JK.
Now obviously if you're talking only about the US then the JK wins hands down, but different situations favor different vehicles. I love my rubicon, I am certainly not knocking how incredible the JK platform is, its just pretty narrow minded to think it's the be-all, end-all in every category in every place. You gotta remember folks that Mercedes makes garbage trucks in Europe, prices aren't always the same depending where you live.
#36
A Jeep is no a "hard core" 4x4 from the factory. None of them really are. But they all can be made into what kind of 4x4 that each individual person wants.
And if i had the money, I'd take a G wagon any day and drive the crap out of it!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8ANsDSsb-Y
And if i had the money, I'd take a G wagon any day and drive the crap out of it!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8ANsDSsb-Y
#37
Maybe a Unimog. A G series, not so much. Same with Range Rovers. In stock form these compare more to a Grand Cherokee than a Wrangler. From the factory, they don't have the ground clearance, flex or tires to do anything offroad. A Wrangler (at least a Rubicon) is surprisingly good straight from the factory.
#38
I think you need clarity too. Not all JKs are capable of these godly feats you all are imagining. Remember some JKs come with 2 wheel drive, no lockers, and tiny little car tires. But no matter how you look at it, a G series is a straight purpose built machine that has been turned into a status symbol here. But that doesnt deminish its capabilities. The G series actually stands for Gelandewagen or Cross Country Vehical. The G has many things the JK doesnt like full time 4wd, 3 locking differentials, hand built construction, diesels, turbo diesels, V8s, supercharged V8s, even a twin turbo V12 now. The G series is so capable that is has been used as ambulances, military vehicals, pope mobile, even the US Marine Corp as the new desert patrol vehicals. It has always been the preeminent off road vehical for pretty much every part of the world except the US.
Also I grew up on a ranch in southern Arizona and my dad owns a 98 G280 with a 2.9L turbo diesel. We used it to rip up tree stumps, hunting, and every type of off roading. I cant even remember all of my friends trucks I pulled out of the mud with it. Now it has over 300,000 miles on it and still running strong with orginal motor and tranny. If I could afford one I would have gotten it in a second over my JK but either way, I love and appreciate both vehicals.
Also I grew up on a ranch in southern Arizona and my dad owns a 98 G280 with a 2.9L turbo diesel. We used it to rip up tree stumps, hunting, and every type of off roading. I cant even remember all of my friends trucks I pulled out of the mud with it. Now it has over 300,000 miles on it and still running strong with orginal motor and tranny. If I could afford one I would have gotten it in a second over my JK but either way, I love and appreciate both vehicals.
#39
Compared to what else is on the market, it's certainly the best we can get here in the USA, but is it truly up to par with seriously hardcore 4X4 legends still sold elswhere in the world like the Toyota LC 70 series , Land Rover Defender or Mercedes G wagon? I'm not arguing yes or no, just wondering what your thoughts are...
#40
The g-wagon is definitely a capable off road vehicle but honestly I haven't seen anything they can do better than a stock rubicon other than have a diesel which I do like. But to call the g-wagon an off road monster is a joke. They are both good off road vehicles but jk is cheaper and has a much bigger aftermarket. I do like the choices of engines in the g-wagon as opposed to the 1 crappy choice chrysler gives us ( at least in the stat