Sprocket

It is clear that the 2012 has a better power plant.. It IS FASTER, it has MORE TORQUE, it has MORE HORSE POWER, it has a BETTER AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION...

There are no valid arguments to say otherwise so can we just put this to rest? Its like arguing whether or not a Sahara is a "mall crawler" and you have a Rubicon that's never left the pavement..

WHO CARES!!! Just enjoy your Jeep and wave at the other Jeepers like you normally would.

181

Guy, your hating out of either jealousy or buyers remorse. It's as transparent as my windshield. Jeep gave us a markedly better motor and auto transmission for exactly ZERO!!!! dollars extra and your going to admonish '12 buyers and coolaid drinking corporate sheep. It doesn't cost anything extra!! In fact it would cost me more to go buy an '11 as dealers around here won't take the TL discount on lot vehicles and they aren't dealing on them more than the $1000 Chrysler incentive. Why didn't you buy a 2010 model, you know Jeep charged you over $1000 for that fancy interior don't you. Sipping that corporate cool-aid hu? And you really think Motor Trend stripped the seats, hood, bumbers, tailgate, top and doors just for a friken acceleration test?! You really believe that? That is the most insane shit I've ever seen posted on here. The best part is that you haven't even drove the thing yet, so you are talking completely out of your ass. Go enjoy your Jeep and please stop posting in the 2012 thread, your have yet to contribute anything except your blind skepticism.

EarlyJk

First year issues will have to be worked out. Thats why you never buy the 1st year. All the new poshness is nice an all but the more innovative Crapsler gets more shit is gonna break. Less is more when it comes to Jeeps.

181

So the whole interior of the Jeep gets rained on and somehow they have it pinpointed that the steering wheel buttons shut down the whole Jeep? And this only applies to the 2012 and not the 2011. Makes so much sense, cruise control buttons on a stick = bomb proof, cruise control button on a pad = shit that will shut down your whole vehicle when wet.

danmojo82

I'm not old enough to drive a Vette yet, I'll stick with the GC SRT8 for a while.

JKU Rubicon

I just did a test drive with a 2012 JKU (manual) in my local dealer this morning.

Very honestly, no difference in the accelaration

jhol111964

You guys...the Automatic transmission, combined with the rearend ratio is the primary improvement from 2012, admittedly, and unapologetically.. BUT FOR THOSE OF US THAT DRIVE A MANUAL, its not going to be the breathtaking improvement that is claimed because the new engine is not the significant change for 2012. I think most folks can understand that, if the rest will quit spreading false information. Make your arguments with facts and data and I will do the same. And where did this "hater, hating on, hate" tactic come frome? You tube or something?

jhol111964

Are you sure? Perhaps you were drugged, abducted by aliens, politically motivated, brainwashed, the victim of hate, envy, jealosy, economics, Red Bull? Surely it cain't be true? You better take a 2012 owner with you, to certify your obsesrvations, otherwise you can't be trusted to your self.

All kidding beside, the point is to have fun on this site, but share the truth. For the auto owners, I see the huge difference. Lets wait and see if the manuals get the same improvement.

ARM2004

i watched that video of the drag race and that 3.8 straight got dusted bad! i must be missing something as to why all these people who have test drove a 2012 dont see much of difference?

181

Motor Trend got 6.7 0-60 out of a manual sport. No other JK no matter the transmission or configuration had ever tested lower than a mid 9. Oh wait, I forgot they used a bare frame with a motor and a single drivers seat for testing. Silly me.