CRD vs HEMI News...
#21
Chrysler is the stupidest company in the free world.
How many of us would trade our rigs in for brand new JK's if they put the diesel option out?
I'd be outside removing the parts from my Jeep RIGHT NOW and it would be back to stock and at the dealership on Monday and I would be signing for a new Rubicon with a diesel within 15mins of being there.
MORONS! No wonder they are bankrupt.
How many of us would trade our rigs in for brand new JK's if they put the diesel option out?
I'd be outside removing the parts from my Jeep RIGHT NOW and it would be back to stock and at the dealership on Monday and I would be signing for a new Rubicon with a diesel within 15mins of being there.
MORONS! No wonder they are bankrupt.
From an article earlier this summer:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...04/464381.html
"Jeep Wrangler continued its strong upward sales trend for the fifth month in a row, with May 2009 sales of 9,294 units. Year-to-date, 44,080 Jeep Wranglers have been sold, up 11 percent from last year. Jeep Wrangler has a 33 percent share of the Compact SUV segment."
This means that in a down economy those ignoramuses at Chrysler will sell ~120,000 Wranglers.
#22
After doing a bit of research, I think the current omission of a diesel JK has more to do with the EPA mandate of low sulfur diesel fuels, than any marketing data Chrysler might possess. Many european diesel motors need to be reworked for the US market, and also there are some issues with older diesels working with the new fuel set to be imposed on June 1st. Then comes all the emissions work that will need to be done and keeping in line with this new mandate.
#23
It seems to me that if Chrysler wanted to "stick" with the wrangler being the iconic emblem of the Jeep name.....I do understand the fact of not putting a diesel in the wrangler. However......they need to offer the Hemi as an option, or some type of V8 powertrain.
I mean c'mon....when I was a kid they offered the CJ buyers a V8 option I believe, if not correct me. But that's what I remember.....and yes the diesel would be nice for the mileage, and torque....I've owned several....but a V8 option, from the factory would be more along the "iconic" road for the wrangler then anything....and if so, i would be first on the list for a trade......
These weird %$# versions like the "islander" i mean c'mon guys.....I bet the ceo doesn't even own a Jeep, probably gets driven everywhere in his Benz or Bently.....guaranteed
I mean c'mon....when I was a kid they offered the CJ buyers a V8 option I believe, if not correct me. But that's what I remember.....and yes the diesel would be nice for the mileage, and torque....I've owned several....but a V8 option, from the factory would be more along the "iconic" road for the wrangler then anything....and if so, i would be first on the list for a trade......
These weird %$# versions like the "islander" i mean c'mon guys.....I bet the ceo doesn't even own a Jeep, probably gets driven everywhere in his Benz or Bently.....guaranteed
#24
After doing a bit of research, I think the current omission of a diesel JK has more to do with the EPA mandate of low sulfur diesel fuels, than any marketing data Chrysler might possess. Many european diesel motors need to be reworked for the US market, and also there are some issues with older diesels working with the new fuel set to be imposed on June 1st. Then comes all the emissions work that will need to be done and keeping in line with this new mandate.
#25
also here in Italy we have 90% CRD engines in our JKs!
the 2.8 CRD is awsome, no smoke ( as someone said ), big reliability, just a little bit noisy ( for sure less then a 3.8 with a sprot exaust ) ... but tons of torque from 1700 rpm till max power!
i really don't know why Jeep doesn't sells the CRD in U.s.a. ! they are crazy i think!
anyway, the consumption ( automatic transmission ) is around 9 km/l ( 21,17 mpg ) with 33" tires, when it was stock it used to drink 10-11 km/l ( 23,5 - 25,5 mpg )
manual transmission can arrive also 12 km/l (28 mpg )
a friend of mine just sold his 3.8L sahara and bought a 2.8 RUBI......he says that there is no match! diesel all life long!
but..... i wold be heppier with a Hemi under the hood
the 2.8 CRD is awsome, no smoke ( as someone said ), big reliability, just a little bit noisy ( for sure less then a 3.8 with a sprot exaust ) ... but tons of torque from 1700 rpm till max power!
i really don't know why Jeep doesn't sells the CRD in U.s.a. ! they are crazy i think!
anyway, the consumption ( automatic transmission ) is around 9 km/l ( 21,17 mpg ) with 33" tires, when it was stock it used to drink 10-11 km/l ( 23,5 - 25,5 mpg )
manual transmission can arrive also 12 km/l (28 mpg )
a friend of mine just sold his 3.8L sahara and bought a 2.8 RUBI......he says that there is no match! diesel all life long!
but..... i wold be heppier with a Hemi under the hood
#26
Like JPop said the problem with getting new diesels in the US is the EPA requirements to use ultra low sulfur fuels. Has anyone driven a 6.4 powerstroke lately. It has more power than older trucks but the filter purge on the exhaust filter really kills the mileage. Cat is going to quit making truck engine because the current sales won't cover the R&D work it takes for EPA compliance. Get rid of the global warming,bunny hugging left in the EPA and we can have good running engines without all the crap.
#27
So true. Actually getting worse than a gas motor in some cases.
#28
Like JPop said the problem with getting new diesels in the US is the EPA requirements to use ultra low sulfur fuels. Has anyone driven a 6.4 powerstroke lately. It has more power than older trucks but the filter purge on the exhaust filter really kills the mileage. Cat is going to quit making truck engine because the current sales won't cover the R&D work it takes for EPA compliance. Get rid of the global warming,bunny hugging left in the EPA and we can have good running engines without all the crap.
Last edited by Jusaplaya; 07-01-2010 at 12:45 PM.
#29
My 2 pence worth...
My 2.8 CRD with 12500 miles is getting 29 mpg (Imperial gal 4.54 litres) which is approx. 23.5 the the US gal (3.67 litres) local driving 2 to 15 miles.
Get approx. 34 mpg = (approx 28mpg to the US gall) on highway depending on load at around 60-65.
Best I've had is 37.4 to the Imperial gall (30 to the US gallon) but that was trying hard on country lanes.
Only seen two other JK's in the past year up hear in windy Northumberland, (NE England) ... so its quite exclusive I suppose.
My 2.8 CRD with 12500 miles is getting 29 mpg (Imperial gal 4.54 litres) which is approx. 23.5 the the US gal (3.67 litres) local driving 2 to 15 miles.
Get approx. 34 mpg = (approx 28mpg to the US gall) on highway depending on load at around 60-65.
Best I've had is 37.4 to the Imperial gall (30 to the US gallon) but that was trying hard on country lanes.
Only seen two other JK's in the past year up hear in windy Northumberland, (NE England) ... so its quite exclusive I suppose.
#30
I would say if there was a Diesel opt, in these the market would be flooded with Gasers on lots. That being said you cant beat a diesel motor sorry HEMI Power or TQ,
Could you handel a Cummins in a JK forget the 44s better add 60s
Could you handel a Cummins in a JK forget the 44s better add 60s