Originally Posted by RepressedSince15

1. Jeeps get "bad" gas mileage because you have been conditioned to think that 18-20 miles per gallon is bad. Compared to the 8 mpg that my '78 Cherokee Chief (or any other 1970's car got for that matter) it is pretty darn good.

2. Take every gas guzzling Jeep and SUV out there and they don't make a tiny bit of difference in the carbon emissions or petroleum consumption compared to the commercial trucks and buses that in most states are exempt from all but the least stringent regulations. You'd be better off taxing cow farts.

3. If you are really driving a gas guzzler, you'll be paying double taxes - the "green tax" and then every time you go to the pump, consuming a higher percentage of fuel, therefore a greater amount of gas tax than your pal in the hybrid!

4. The government already gets more than it's fair share of the fruits of my labor - tax when I earn, tax when I spend, tax when I give, tax when I die. No new "green" taxes please.

Originally Posted by Zee

I've read in several places that the JK will now be subject to a $1000 green levy by the Canadian Government. Has anyone in Canada had to pay this yet? It hasn't come up in me recent factory order, however, if the stealer is going to hit me with it when I go in to take delivery, I want to be prepared.

Originally Posted by driley

There needs to be incentives for both the public and the manufacturers to make more efficient vehicles. I think tax penalties are a perfectly fine way to do that. Along with big brother government mandates

Devin

Originally Posted by RepressedSince15

A thousand dollar tax is not an incentive. It is a regressive punishment that ultimately will do very little to accomplish what you desire. If you really believe in what you say, you would not have purchased a "gas guzzling" vehicle, only to assuage your guilt through the payment of a "green" tax and the imposition of the tax on others.

You cannot buy a ticket to heaven by paying for prayer credits. Act on your own convictions instead of faulting and punishing others who do not share them.

I shall flame no more on this.

Originally Posted by driley

It seems that I am an oddball Jeep owner but I am a lefty/liberal and I am all for making the planet a better place to live. Jeeps get bad gas mileage and I have NO problem with there being a green tax on them. Besides, who really does not thinik it would be a good thing to reduce our dependence on foreign oil?

It is in our own best interest of self preservation and in taking care of this good country to stop using so much of this liquid crack that we call gasoline.

I am for the new cafe standards as well.

Devin (Mr Lefty Liberal)

Originally Posted by driley

It seems that I am an oddball Jeep owner but I am a lefty/liberal and I am all for making the planet a better place to live. Jeeps get bad gas mileage and I have NO problem with there being a green tax on them. Besides, who really does not thinik it would be a good thing to reduce our dependence on foreign oil?
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Originally Posted by driley

I think most of us are environmentalist in some way. If you live in Southern California you surely would like to have there be less smog. If you like off-roading, you do like to enjoy the natural scenery, right? You do prefer that your water not be full of toxic chemicals, right?

Devin (Mr Lefty Liberal)

Originally Posted by RepressedSince15

I get it. We're playing Jeopardy. The answer is "why should all politicians be shot on sight?"

That's typical of what's coming stateside soon thanks to the lefty "sky is falling / earth is melting" crowd.

Originally Posted by armycop