Denny2565

I took your idea, went a slightly different route and picked up some velcro straps in place of the canvas strap. I'll probably bend the upper door in at some point, but couldn't bring myself to do that to a brand new door. While I was there, I also picked up a stick of pipe insulation and used it to stop the canvas from slapping against the metal bar.

These two additions made my highway driving a lot more bearable.

horsty69

Although not perfect I dont regret my soft door purchase at all. I do think they are expensive and the quality is only ok, however nothing replaces the ease of taking these on and off on a whim.

I keep them on for 4 months straight..yes its loud and some water comes in, however they keep me dry and warm when need be and the functionality makes it worth it.

p.s.... Short story.. my wife hates them but they make me

AZchris

If anybody is wanting to get rid of their doors, let me know.

echofoxtrot

I think the problem with these threads is that they just make you want to buy them even more. It's like the lottery. We probably won't win but we cling to the hope that we get a set that isn't defective. Allowing us to brag to the others!

Denny2565

I've seen a few people that hit the lottery and didn't seem to have any problems. But they are definitely in the minority. I think what makes everyone mad is they didn't get what they paid for.(quality wise) My 4 doors are probably worth closer to $500 instead of the $800 they are listed for now.

But I'm guessing that since Bestop doesn't have any competition in the 2-piece soft door market, they did some research and determined how much they could mark the doors up and still meet their sales goals. If another company started making a similar door, I'm sure the Bestop door price would go down and the quality would go up.

jerseyjeepgurl

I thought that I'd post my review where I have read an posted:

Bestop Soft Door Review: Mixed feelings for SURE!
After getting a set delivered that were damaged, yesterday the brand new set came just in time, as we were supposed to get hit by Earl at the shore.


okay,
The new set came today, and I could at ONCE see that they sent a box that was never opened, or used. The tell tale fact was that the door handles were not attached to the doors yet, they were packaged up with all safety for the doors addressed for shipping. And YES they DO have keys that lock the doors up, (yes I know that it's a soft door, but locking it deters them, even just a bit more, making me, just a bit more happy, when in a questionable area. That is all probably a mental thing, but hey, sometimes that makes it worth it.)

Now the PROS:
*They are super light weight, and easy to place on the Jeep (after all the installation issues are handled)

*They can be thrown into the back if "iffy weather" is approaching - a HUGE PLUS!

*They will be able to offer me the ability to go doorless when I want to, negating the need to
need to get help in taking the factory doors on and off, by myself.

*They match the soft-top, and the storage boot material, making a more uniform look overall.

*yes they were 400 bucks, but the ability and do it myself status is/was worth it.

Now the CONS:

* All JK's are the same - why on earth is there so much trouble getting them to fit! A door is a door! they don't change with different years, and the amount of "off fitting" is absolutely CRAZY - I can literally put my hand under the door, and stick my hand thru it. Now, I know that I can still bend, flex, adjust and play around with them more, but seriously,,,,if the door frame is EXACTLY the same on EVERY JK, then why such Ill fitting soft doors? For a company like Bestop the problems associated with fit of the doors is a serious concern to me at least. I do not understand why they cannot be taken out of the box, and placed on the Jeep, and fit like a GLOVE

* the noise associated with the speeds at ONLY 30-40MPH is a genuine concern. Not only do they flap, but they also separate from the vehicle at the top of the Jam. This will now make the need for a bungee cord at the top of the door frame, attached to the sun-visor metal frame, for higher speeds. This only happens when the windows are up and zipped shut. With the windows unzipped, they do not have this problem. But the bungee, will be a PITA when getting in and out, because it will have to be undone each time you get in and out.

* The material for the door itself does not fit really good, which MAY make the noise more of a concern. I am going to try and ad large velcro patches, to the already present velcro closures, to give it more attaching qualities, negating the "flapping" hopefully

* If there was ever a day to "test" the water penetration problems, today was the day, as we got hit by the outer bands of EARL. The winds and rain surely found a way, to let plenty of water into the vehicle. Towels placed at the door jams caught most of it. I went out and purchased weather stripping, to help with this problem, and the hubby and I will work on bettering the "fit" this weekend.

All in all, I am happy that I have them. I will use them, and continue to throw the trail cover over my jeep when bad weather is coming, (not a problem, as I use the cover every night with the doors off anyway). They were purchased to save my back, and the need for help all during the summer, with the doors, so for THAT ISSUE ALONE, it was worth the money! Its better than NO DOORS, when the crappy weather is pending or coming right at you, and you know that you are going to be stuck without the doors. I think that they SHOULD come with a soft door bag for storage, but I will purchase one of those on my own. I can only HOPE that Rugged Ridge and Smittybilt are PAYING attention, because the NEED is out there, and with BT being the only game in town, there is ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT by ANY company that knows what Jeep owners NEED and WANT for their vehicles.

Its like being stuck in a corner. We need to have an option for doors off, when out and about. But the fact that no other company is making them yet, makes Bestop, the only game in town, thus giving them the ability, to throw them together, hap-hazardly without a care. This is SUCH A SHAME! Bestop USED to stand for quality, now they are made with cheap materials, and are ill fitting, and flimsy, and not what I was hoping to get from a company like Bestop. But, like I said, when you are backed into a corner because of a lack physical ability ( or in my case my Disability), you learn to pretty much "riff", with what you can, and although settling is something that I do not stand for, settle I must in this situation. They will not replace my hard doors, they will be letting in wind, rain and noise, but they also will let me have a bit of self dependance for a change, and THAT is worth what ever settling I must make,,,,,,,,

***Will be adding pictures as soon as I can

crwood1

Work fine 4 door, no flop, use velcro strap from top bar in the door to roll bar pad with hook side of velcro to the rollpad, pull tight and fasten to the rollpad-- will hold top in and easy to use--mine is 07 and have not had hard doors on since 6 mos old--moving in rain no problem--stopped, have towels ready--also have the nylon cover if needed--

djab

Yeah, they're a PITA! It took me a while but I think I finally solved the flapping at high speeds. I too had about a 3" flappin gap at the top next to the roll bar. It was so bad sometimes I thought the entire door was going to fly off. I took the doors off and bent the S out of them. Just put them on the ground and put your weight on them so they bend in the middle towards the outside of the door. They're harder to close but no more flapping and no need for velcro straps or anything extra to hold them in place.
The two pieces didn't line up AT ALL when I went to put them together. The bars were so misaligned. I just took a hammer and went to town. Fit fine now.
I still have a gap at the bottom but don't care. Rain gets in when it's parked too.

All in all they serve their purpose. Easy on/off. Can throw them in the back if I want to drive without doors but think it might rain. I definitely don't think they're worth the price though.

jerseyjeepgurl

A note of caution:

When these doors come in, they should NOT have the door paddle handles on them already. If they are already installed, SEND them BACK!




This means that somebody has already had these doors, and could not get them to work, and THEY sent them back. I have a feeling that MANY of these sets are getting returned, and they are being sent back out, in HOPES that people can get them to work. -OR- are settling for a crap fit, because this is what people are doing with them. They hear that they fit crappy, and guess that this is as good as it gets, and keep them, with the ill fitting ways. They do fit badly at certain spots, but if you get a used and damaged set, no matter what you try to do, they won't fit as good as they CAN fit. ( I hope this makes sense, to those that have had so many problems with them. Had I not gotten the used set, and then subsequently the new set, I would have never figured this out).



The doors SHOULD arrive with small red bumpers on the bottom of the posts, with Styrofoam on the posts, to keep them secured them in the box. The locks should have keys as well, two of them.




There are also SMALL tiny "set Screws" that are on the upper window posts, be careful,,,, they come out VERY easily, and roll around in the box, there are FOUR of them, and they are VERY tiny, so be careful. Open the box, and CHECK the posts [on the upper window] for these screws, they SHOULD be in the round post locks, if they are not, then they are probably rolling around in the box, find them, before you take these doors out of the box!



The next step should be, to do a "check fit placement" with the handles, in the correct position, by adjusting the screws in the bottom of the door, so that they fit in the door frame as best as possible. Only then, should you poke thru the fabric material, to then install the paddle handle closures. If you don't get the correct fit, BEFORE you install the handles, then they will most likely never fit correctly. This goes against what Bestop tells you to do, in the instructions. They tell you to just put the handles in, and, it won't work. An Awl tool is also the perfect tool to use, to poke the holes into the material. Do it, ONE HOLE AT A TIME, to make sure of the fit, and latching ability, (both with the opening and closing of the doors), is consistent.




Only after ALL of this" can you then partake in the, final "bending the Sh*t out of them". The bottom hinge, is the one that has to be bent outward, more so than the top one. We also managed to get most of the flapping stopped. The way that we managed it, was to get a 3" aluminum pipe, and use it as a "form" of sorts to bend and shape it, (more to the "natural shape", of the door itself).



They fit "better", but they don't have the fit that they need on the bottom of the door panels. The mere fact that Bestop, cannot fit these doors to the actual curve of the door frame, is what stumps me to no end. They are now onto the 2011's, and the shape of the door frame, has not changed, yet fitting these doors, adding extra weather stripping and bending, etc, is absolutely crazy, for a product that costs 400 bucks. It SHOULD be, ONE EASY step - Open box, put on jeep (okay thats two steps, but its WAY less than what we went thru, to get them on).



If you are patient,,,,,,they CAN work, but patience is a virtue with these doors. But like I said, the best thing to do, is to be very careful, that they are actually a NEW SET, when they get shipped to your house. I think that Bestop and the distributers, are trying to cut their losses, and are sending out the crappy ill fitting used ones, to unsuspecting customers. As a person that has seen the difference of what a damaged and used set looks like, when shipped, and of getting a brand new, un-used set shipped, the way that they are supposed to be sent, I can tell you that the difference that it will make, is clearly there. Its just a word of caution, and I hope that it helps anybody considering this making purchase. Because,,,,, when they do work, they are certainly worth the ease of use.










Also since they are so portable there should be a bag available for them, but since there isn't, I also plan on making a template, to make a carrier of some sort, to keep them safe, while in the back, when not in use. This way, I can keep them in back without getting scratched up, or ripped.

jerseyjeepgurl

This is because I truly believe that people are getting sets that have been returned! If you get a BRAND NEW set, and install them the right way, you WILL get a better fit (see my pictures below), but if people are getting sets that have been used and returned you will never get to fit them the way that they need to be fitted. Make sure that your purchase is BRAND NEW, or else you're screwed. Do not purchase them used unless you want to take a HUGE chance on fit, and losing whatever you paid for them.