mcnaught6

and i'm locking this thread, it's gotten too tense in here.

show's over boys, go on home. nothing here to see but cats on cars.

mcnaught6

here's how my 3rd brake light relocation went on an LoD rear bumper/tire carrier:



used two of these brackets from home depot. they were 6 inches long:

wgr

Has anyone done mod to fit this third brakelight inside of rear window ? Any pics ?

moun10eer

I got a Bestop / High Rock 4x4 Oversize Tire Carrier. It came with a longer arm for the 3rd brake light. I didn't want to spend $1,000+ for a new bumper w/ tire carrier (for now anyway). It holds the 35" tire well and no problem so far... no rattle, shake etc. The rear gate is fine, also.

eaglemikeo

Ok, so can't we all just get along?

I understand each of your points of view. Yes, a law enforcement officer may pull you over and not know that you don't have a catalytic converter. But you also have to think, are they going to get down on the ground and look underneath of your vehicle? Perhaps we should give some credit to law enforcement officers and believe that they can count to 3. 1 on the left. 1 on the right. 1 somewhere in between and a little higher in elevation. I'm sure that throughout all the training that these under-appreciated people go through, they are taught to look for some of the easy things.

Jamooche

Here's my version of the brake light mod with 35x10.5x16 tires. Nothing fancy: 1 cut, 4 holes, two brackets, and some bolts, washers, and nuts.

mhpace

I see a lot of extending of the light...what about shortening it to show through the wheel...not the center cap but through one of the other holes?

turtoni

You might get a ticket.


"In North America since 1986, in Australia and New Zealand since 1990, and in Europe since 1998, a central brake lamp, mounted higher than the vehicle's left and right brake lamps and called a Centre High Mount Stop Lamp (CHMSL), is also required. The CHMSL (pronounced /ˈtʃɪmzəl/) is also sometimes referred to as the centre brake lamp, the third brake light, the eye-level brake lamp, the safety brake lamp, the high-level brake lamp, or the Liddy Light (for Elizabeth Dole, who as U.S. Secretary of Transportation presided over its introduction in the United States[38]). The CHMSL may produce light by means of a single central filament bulb, a row or cluster of filament bulbs or LEDs, or a strip of Neon tube.

The CHMSL is intended to provide a deceleration warning to following drivers whose view of the vehicle's left and right stop lamps is blocked by interceding vehicles. It also helps to disambiguate brake vs. turn signal messages in North America, where red rear turn signals identical in appearance to brake lamps are permitted, and also can provide a redundant brake signal in the event of a brake lamp malfunction. The CHMSL is required to illuminate steadily; it is not permitted to flash except in certain cases under severe braking.

On passenger cars, the CHMSL may be placed above the back glass, affixed to the vehicle's interior just inside the back glass, or it may be integrated into the vehicle's deck lid or into a spoiler. Other specialised fitments are sometimes seen; the Land Rover Freelander has the CHMSL on a stalk fixed to the spare wheel carrier. Trucks, vans and commercial vehicles sometimes have the CHMSL mounted to the trailing edge of the vehicle's roof. The CHMSL is required by regulations worldwide to be centred laterally on the vehicle, though ECE R48 permits lateral offset of up to 15 cm if the vehicle's lateral centre is not coincident with a fixed body panel, but instead separates movable components such as doors. The Renault Master van, for example, uses a laterally offset CHMSL for this reason. The height of the CHMSL is also regulated, in absolute terms and with respect to the mounting height of the vehicle's conventional left and right brake lamps. Depending on the left and right lamps' height, the CHMSL isn't always mounted relatively very high; its lower edge may be just above the left and right lamps' upper edge.


History
The 1968–1971 Ford Thunderbird could be ordered with additional high-mounted brake and turn signal lights. These were fitted in strips on either side of its small rear window. This option was rarely specified.[citation needed] The Oldsmobile Toronado from 1971-1978, and the Buick Riviera from 1974-1976 had dual high-mounted supplemental brake lights/turn signals as standard, and were located just below the bottom of the rear window, visually aligned with the conventional rear tail lights/brake lights/turn signals just above the rear bumper. These innovations were not widely adopted at the time. Auto and lamp manufacturers in Germany experimented with dual high-mount supplemental brake lamps in the early 1980s, but this effort, too, failed to gain wide popular or regulatory support.

Early studies involving taxicabs and other fleet vehicles found that a third stop lamp reduced rear-end collisions by about 50%. The lamp's novelty probably played a role, since today the lamp is credited with reducing collisions by about 5%.

In 1986, the United States National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and Transport Canada mandated that all new passenger cars have a CHMSL installed. A CHMSL was required on all new light trucks and vans starting in 1994. CHMSLs are so inexpensive to incorporate into a vehicle that even if the lamps prevent only a few percent of rear end collisions they remain a cost-effective safety feature."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automot...brake_lamps.29