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Old 10-17-2007, 12:20 PM
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Actually I'm not sure his statement is that stupid. When I read the California law, that was exactly how I interpreted the wording. Here it is:

Stoplamps

24603. Every motor vehicle which is not in combination with any other vehicle and every vehicle at the end of a combination of vehicles shall at all times be equipped with stoplamps mounted on the rear as follows:
(a) Every such vehicle shall be equipped with one or more stoplamps.
(b) Every such vehicle, other than a motorcycle, manufactured and first registered on or after January 1, 1958, shall be equipped with two stoplamps, except that trailers and semitrailers manufactured after July 23, 1973, which are less than 30 inches wide, may be equipped with one stoplamp which shall be mounted at or near the vertical centerline of the trailer. If such vehicle is equipped with two stoplamps, they shall be mounted as specified in subdivision (d).
(c) Except as provided in subdivision (h), stoplamps on vehicles manufactured on or after January 1, 1969, shall be mounted not lower than 15 inches nor higher than 72 inches, except that a tow truck, in addition to being equipped with the required stoplamps, may also be equipped with two stoplamps which may be mounted not lower than 15 inches nor higher than the maximum allowable vehicle height and as far forward as the rearmost portion of the driver's seat in the rearmost position.
(d) Where two stoplamps are required, at least one shall be mounted at the left and one at the right side, respectively, at the same level.
(e) Stoplamps on vehicles manufactured on or after January 1, 1979, shall emit a red light. Stoplamps on vehicles manufactured before January 1, 1979, shall emit a red or yellow light. All stoplamps shall be plainly visible and understandable from a distance of 300 feet to the rear both during normal sunlight and at nighttime, except that stoplamps on a vehicle of a size required to be equipped with clearance lamps shall be visible from a distance of 500 feet during such times.
(f) Stoplamps shall be activated upon application of the service (foot) brake and the hand control head for air, vacuum, or electric brakes. In addition, all stoplamps may be activated by a mechanical device designed to function only upon sudden release of the accelerator while the vehicle is in motion. Stoplamps on vehicles equipped with a manual transmission may be manually activated by a mechanical device when the vehicle is downshifted if the device is automatically rendered inoperative while the vehicle is accelerating.
(g) Any vehicle may be equipped with supplemental stoplamps mounted to the rear of the rearmost portion of the driver's seat in its rearmost position in addition to the lamps required to be mounted on the rear of the vehicle. Supplemental stoplamps installed after January 1, 1979, shall be red in color and mounted not lower than 15 inches above the roadway. The supplemental stoplamp on that side of a vehicle toward which a turn will be made may flash as part of the supplemental turn signal lamp.
A supplemental stoplamp may be mounted inside the rear window of a vehicle, if it is mounted at the centerline of the vehicle and is constructed and mounted so as to prevent any light, other than a monitorial indicator emitted from the device, either direct or reflected, from being visible to the driver.
(h) Any supplemental stoplamp installed after January 1, 1987, shall comply with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 108 (49 C.F.R. 571.108). Any vehicle equipped with a stoplamp which complies with the federal motor vehicle safety standards applicable to that make and model vehicle shall conform to that applicable safety standard unless modified to comply with the federal motor vehicle safety standard designated in this subdivision.
Old 10-17-2007, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Robar
What kind of a stupid statement is that?
I had to read it a few times to decipher it as well.
Old 10-17-2007, 12:29 PM
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Here's with the tire installed with the rack too!
Old 10-17-2007, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Rubidonn
You kind of end up w/that if you go w/a tire carrier that gets you tire up high enough to make your departure angle acceptable/optimal. But that's why they make side mirrors
hey rubidonn, would you post a pic or two of how you re-routed your wiring for the light, please? i'm wanting to see how it exits the tailgate - did you run it back inside the tailgate, then just have it coming out from under it?
did you just splice in some wiring to extend it, or did you get some of those harness connects somewhere? i'm wondering about what looks to be an extension with the same connectors that show up in this pic of yours, at the bottom of the swingaway.
thanks and great idea!
Old 10-17-2007, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mcnaught6
hey rubidonn, would you post a pic or two of how you re-routed your wiring for the light, please? i'm wanting to see how it exits the tailgate - did you run it back inside the tailgate, then just have it coming out from under it?
did you just splice in some wiring to extend it, or did you get some of those harness connects somewhere? i'm wondering about what looks to be an extension with the same connectors that show up in this pic of yours, at the bottom of the swingaway.
thanks and great idea!
Good questions... Actually, all the wire that you see there (except the sheathing) as well as connectors are all factory. They are what is/was there originally. All I did was unplug the third brake light (plug is inside the tailgate accessable from the inside panel near latch) and pulled the wire out (through the grommet on the outside of tailgate) that goes to the third brake light. Then I removed the long horizontal panel on the inside of the tailgate and removed the brake light wire from behind it and removed it all the way back to inside the Jeep near the tailgate hinges (behind the carpet). Then I just re-routed it out of the bottom corner below the tailgate as seen in my picture you've posted above. It basically goes inside the Jeep and the wires lead to behind the carpet near the subwoofer just as the factory wired it... So in essence I just re-routed the wire from being in the tailgate to dropping outside at the bottom of the tailgate as seen in the photo. I can snap some more pictures and e-mail them to you if you like... just PM me w/your e-mail address if you need them.

EDIT: If I recall correctly, I may have had to cut the wire to get it out of the grommit on the outside of the tailgate... but the actual length of the wire is same as stock... hopefully that makes sense...

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Old 10-17-2007, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by OffTopic
Actually I'm not sure his statement is that stupid.
I wasn't talking about the brake light statement.
Old 10-17-2007, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by inajeep
If you don't have state inspections then just think of that 3rd light as just one more way of keeping idiots from running into the back of you. Reposition it like above.
I agree, the more lights the better. I put a fourth brake light in the receiver $9 from NAPA. Still some idiot ran off the road behind me last week because I stopped and he didn't.

HANG UP AND DRIVE!!!
Old 10-17-2007, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by seer1

HANG UP AND DRIVE!!!
Old 10-17-2007, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Robar
What kind of a stupid statement is that?
I will make it easy for you.

If the light is there it has to work.

Thats how CT law states it.
Old 10-17-2007, 04:01 PM
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I will make it easy for you.

Originally Posted by twinturbostang
Also most cops dont know what they are looking at anyways.
Originally Posted by Robar
What kind of a stupid statement is that?


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