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Old 12-13-2011, 11:32 AM
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New member here.... just bought 2012 rubi
sticker was 33,790
paid 30,290
no trade
between 3000 and 3500 off you've done good
Old 12-14-2011, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 03fatboy
I got $3,750 off a plain jane 12 Rubi, $32.5k.

Way below invoice, I have no idea how they did it, perhaps black, in Texas, take a loss or don't sell it.
I'm looking for a plain jane Rubi in Texas too but I'm not getting any quotes near $3750 off. I've checked in Dallas, Houston and San Antonio so far and $2,500 is the best offer I'm getting.
Old 12-16-2011, 08:56 AM
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Wow guys, super valuable thread here. I am so glad I found it.

I'm getting out of an '02 BMW that I have had as a daily driver/commuter that I bought new. KBB Trade in is between $4862 and $6262. Resale is $7777. Just giving you all this as a baseline for my decision.

I have been working with my local dealer for 2 weeks now on getting me a 2012 JKU Sport with 24S, Connectivity with Uconnect/bluetooth/Sirius, Auto, Trac-Lok, and Hard Top. Sticker is $31,645.

I told them I wanted $30k out the door (without trade in). They came back with $34,xxx out the door and only $4k for my BMW. I walked.

Today I get on Truecar and now I have 5 voicemails from the same dealer and others around SLC. Truecar price saves me 5% ($1,645) bringing it down to $29,775. Am I being unreasonable in the price I am trying to get? I am willing to take less than $5k for the BMW because it could use some work if I am going to keep it... AND it motivates them to come off of the sticker price even more since they are making off like a bandit on my trade. My credit union already has a $30k check literally waiting.

Any Insights???
Old 12-16-2011, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Njw
Wow guys, super valuable thread here. I am so glad I found it.

I'm getting out of an '02 BMW that I have had as a daily driver/commuter that I bought new. KBB Trade in is between $4862 and $6262. Resale is $7777. Just giving you all this as a baseline for my decision.

I have been working with my local dealer for 2 weeks now on getting me a 2012 JKU Sport with 24S, Connectivity with Uconnect/bluetooth/Sirius, Auto, Trac-Lok, and Hard Top. Sticker is $31,645.

I told them I wanted $30k out the door (without trade in). They came back with $34,xxx out the door and only $4k for my BMW. I walked.

Today I get on Truecar and now I have 5 voicemails from the same dealer and others around SLC. Truecar price saves me 5% ($1,645) bringing it down to $29,775. Am I being unreasonable in the price I am trying to get? I am willing to take less than $5k for the BMW because it could use some work if I am going to keep it... AND it motivates them to come off of the sticker price even more since they are making off like a bandit on my trade. My credit union already has a $30k check literally waiting.

Any Insights???
$34k out the door is straight sticker... they are crackheads. tell them 29500 out the door. the longer they delay, the more its going to cost them in a buyers market.
$4k on the trade is a ripoff but no dealer gives you anything close to value so grin and bear it.


Is the truecar discounts counting rebates or are rebates on top of the discount.

Either way tell the local dealer that the otherguys quoted you a better price and see if they come down further.
Old 12-16-2011, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucko
$34k out the door is straight sticker... they are crackheads. tell them 29500 out the door.
The OP's " out the door " includes taxes, tags, etc.
His post says MSRP/sticker is $31,645.
Taxes, tags, etc are different in every State. It is impossible to express an informed opinion unless he tells us:
1. MSRP/sticker - $31,645.
2. Sale/discounted price, after all rebates.
2. Trade allowance.
Old 12-16-2011, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rubiman
Here are the options:

JEEP WRANGLER UNLIMITED RUBICON 4X4 Exterior Color:Black Clear Coat Exterior Paint Interior Color:Black Interior Color
Interior:Cloth Seats with Adjustable Head Restraints Engine:3.6-Liter V6 24-Valve VVT Engine Transmission:5-Speed Automatic W5A580 Transmission

Customer Preferred Package 24R Connectivity Group
Electronic Vehicle Information Center Max Tow Package
Class II Receiver Hitch
Trailer Sway Damping
Trailer Tow with 4-Pin Wiring Connector Supplemental Front Seat-Mounted Side Airbags
5-Speed Automatic W5A580 Transmission
Hill Descent Control
4.10 Rear Axle Ratio
Air Conditioning with Automatic Temperature Control
Air Filtering
Heated Front Seats
Black 3-Piece Hard Top
Delete Sunrider Soft Top
Freedom Panel Storage Bag
Rear Window Defroster
Rear Window Wiper / Washer
Media Center 730N SAT/CD/DVD/Mp3/ HDD/NAV
40 GB Hard Drive with 20 GB Available SiriusXM Travel Link/1Yr Travel Link Subscription
SiriusXM Traffic / 1-Yr SiriusXM Traffic Service
Uconnect(R) Voice Command with Bluetooth
Remote Start System
DESTINATION CHARGE $ 800
TOTAL PRICE:* $ 39,550 - Minus 3K - $36,550



Good deal???
Did you go dual tops? I just ordered almost the exact same thing (add black leather) for $37,250 - I think sticker was $41,090...
Old 12-16-2011, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by walc
The OP's " out the door " includes taxes, tags, etc.
His post says MSRP/sticker is $31,645.
Taxes, tags, etc are different in every State. It is impossible to express an informed opinion unless he tells us:
1. MSRP/sticker - $31,645.
2. Sale/discounted price, after all rebates.
2. Trade allowance.
yeah, i wasn't clear, 'out the door' based on sticker. 10% is pretty fair to guess for TTL.
Old 12-16-2011, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by walc
The OP's " out the door " includes taxes, tags, etc.
His post says MSRP/sticker is $31,645.
Taxes, tags, etc are different in every State. It is impossible to express an informed opinion unless he tells us:
1. MSRP/sticker - $31,645.
2. Sale/discounted price, after all rebates.
2. Trade allowance.
Hopefully I can clarify. Whatever they decide on my trade, I am keeping $4K separate (not going towards the Jeep)
Sticker is $31,645 and Tax is $1878 plus $1708 in fees. Total came to $34,585.

My thinking was negotiate $5k for the trade, keeping $4k for myself so the dealer made $1k to put against the sticker.

$33.5k after taxes for them, but get me out the door for $30k. That is basically the 10% off that others have mentioned.

Does that make sense?
Old 12-16-2011, 10:12 AM
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2012 JKU Rubi
Sticker $39.7K
Paid $34.0
Did all the dealing over email. Walked in with zero haggling at the stealership.
Best auto purchasing experience I ever had...!
Old 12-16-2011, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Njw
Hopefully I can clarify. Whatever they decide on my trade, I am keeping $4K separate (not going towards the Jeep)
Sticker is $31,645 and Tax is $1878 plus $1708 in fees. Total came to $34,585.

My thinking was negotiate $5k for the trade, keeping $4k for myself so the dealer made $1k to put against the sticker.

$33.5k after taxes for them, but get me out the door for $30k. That is basically the 10% off that others have mentioned.

Does that make sense?

Taxes of $1878 go to the Government. Who gets the $1708 in fees?
Around here, dealers often pad their profit with several hundred dollars of BS fees.
In any event, your numbers don't look like much of a discount.
Personally, I recommend USAA Auto Buying Service, which doesn't require insurance with them, or TrueCar or Tread Lightly.


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