Originally Posted by ranjr

Maybe, but I'm pretty sure it was the same as there's not many to be found. I think it comes down to your opinion of "outperforming". I think that's a little too generous and should be more like "edge out" because the only real noticeable difference is when the 3.8 has quit and the 3.6 continues for another 1000 rpm.

It's been said many times that the true performance improvement for the 2012s is the 5 speed automatic not the Pentastar.