JulietKilo

I must say that my basic 4 inch franken lift has a lot of flex and would please anyone IMHO. 27.5 inch droop shocks with about 10-11 inches of travel with 35's. It doesnt flex like coilovers but it does flex.





I think it just depends on what you are looking for. But for about 600-700 bucks I came up with a great lift and a great daily driver!

wayoflife

honestly, i was thinking something along the same lines as well when i saw it. and, looking at his shocks, they did look maxed out or close to it but i was told that he used the shocks that came with the kit. all things considered, that would make sense to me if the shocks were being used as limiting straps - prevent too much droop to preserve the bushings.

no - i did not ride in the JK shown and have never ridden in one on the trail.

really? honestly, looking at your photos, i'm not so sure how you could be making this statement. first off, are you using the shocks that came with the kit or are you using something else? while they do look like they allow for more droop, clearly you have to admit that it isn't nearly as much as a 4-link setup could offer. being that you have 35's, i would have thought that your tire should have dropped below the frame or even pinch seam but in this pic, you are well above both. granted, maybe it's just the terrain you were on and given different circumstances, you would have achieved more. certainly, i have seen 37's droop past this point with ease...



also, please don't misunderstand me for pointing this out but, are you aware that your rear tire is not stuffing up into the wheel well and that your driver side shock has about half its lenght still showing? of course, this is to say nothing about the fact that your body is way off balance...



if your suspension were in fact providing good flex, your suspension should allow for enough articulation to stuff your tire up, use up most of the shock lenght and keep your body relatively level. from what i am seeing in your photo, your suspension is binding and that's why everything looks the way it does. now, if you're happy with what you got, that's great, i really am happy for you. my point in bringing any of this up in the first place was to inform people that I (me personally) wouldn't be satisfied with this and would have expected a lot more from a long arm kit. but as i said, this is just me.

no apologiese necessary. however, i should point out that the photo i posted shows a jk on 37's, you have 35's. the smaller tires you have will make your flex look like you have more. also, the angle i took this photo not the same as you took yours. i might argue that it would still measure out to being about what i am seeing on your jeep if it were taken the same way and had 35's too. either way, even what i'm seeing in your photos, i'm still not seeing what i personally would expect from a long arm kit and honestly, i think i still see way more flex with my short arms than what you are with your long arms....





keep in mind, these head on shots are of my JK with short arms and even though the camera angle is low, you can still see that the top my 37" tire is sitting at about the pinch seam if not a bit lower.

again, please know this is not personal and i'm not trying to get you to defend the RE kit - i'm just pointing out what i see.

glad to hear it. honestly, if you're happy with it, that's all that really matters

QKSILVER

Are there any side effects to all of this flex?

wayoflife

sure - depending on the joints your control arms have, this massive amount of flex may put a lot of stress on them and this can potentially blow them out. so far, the teraflex arms i am using seem to be up to the task but it might be some time before i can tell you what the long term effects are. with the kind of wheeling i do, i wouldn't be surprised if the did go sooner than later but that would be no fault of teraflex especially since their arms weren't specifically designed for the EVO flex. having said all that, a good 4-link long arm kit will reduce this stress.

wayoflife

in case any of you were interested in some lab test shots, here is my JK up on a 30° RTI ramp - remember, all this was accomplished with short arms ....





with all 4 on the floor baby!!

jeepik

his shots look great for the RE long arm, the shot on the rock looks to be completely off camber, hence why the jeep is not as centered

the design of the RE kit is the best in the way it attaches to the frame, highest clearance possible ( that is very attractive for those of us who dont like to replace crossmembers every season

505JK

For a long arm vs long arm comparison, this is a picture of AdamORW's JK with a FT long arm kit. It a very good example of what WOL is trying to articulate.



More info: https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/jk-show-tell-33/full-traction-long-arm-kit-action-pics-49840/

If I remember correctly, he is using 14" travel shocks.

jeepik

as great as the full traction lift is,

the relationship of the bottom of the front crossmember and the top of the tire is what should be really looked at here

RE is high clearance, FT is not(in fact probably the lowest clearance kit out there

505JK

I definitely agree about the cross member and would also point out the rear lower control arm mounts.

JackMac4

and what exactly does the clearance have to do with the flex, droop, or any of the other topic items here?