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No...my winch is about 40 miles away...lol i will figure out how much it needs to be spaced up and use a steel plate underneath the fairlead mount. I was planning on installing it but my power interrupt kit didn't come in. may take the drive later to determine how far this needs to be spaced up. I will respond in here as soon as I know. I wouldn't freak out though, it will still work. This bumper/winch combo will look very good.
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Well i sent a pm to the member on the other forum and his reply was that the distance is less than 1/4 inch and closer to 1/8 inch and that he almost had his winch tightened down before he discovered the interference. So it doesn't sound like it will take much to make it fit.
rtguy1 do think that the plate should be welded to the bottom of the fairlead mount for extra rigiidty or will just bolting it all together be strong enough?
rtguy1 do think that the plate should be welded to the bottom of the fairlead mount for extra rigiidty or will just bolting it all together be strong enough?
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Well i sent a pm to the member on the other forum and his reply was that the distance is less than 1/4 inch and closer to 1/8 inch and that he almost had his winch tightened down before he discovered the interference. So it doesn't sound like it will take much to make it fit.
rtguy1 do think that the plate should be welded to the bottom of the fairlead mount for extra rigiidty or will just bolting it all together be strong enough?
rtguy1 do think that the plate should be welded to the bottom of the fairlead mount for extra rigiidty or will just bolting it all together be strong enough?
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Originally Posted by rtguy1
bolting it on should be fine since its just a spacer. it's the same concept as the fairlead mount that simply bolts on underneath the winch. no need to weld on that. i'm probably going to use a full size plate though so the entire winch fairlead mounting base sits flush on it. it sounds like a 1/8", 3/16", or 1/4" plate should work. look at the fairlead mounting plate. its not a full sheet. it just outlines the mounting plate of the winch. i will look at the base and mounting feet of the winch and make my decision. this really isn't a big deal to simply space it up. def not the end of the world here or warranting a return of the winch. a small touch of ingenuity and we will be in business. just need to figure out exactly what thickness spacing will be required to eliminate the interference and than obtain hardware with the same additional length.
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update...I have the Bralwer Lite with trail stinger and a Warn Zeon 10-S. I'm using the poison spyder hawse fairlead mounting plate. It does fit on my bumper. The clearance between the bumper and the ends of the winch housing is very very very tight. it does clear however. I'm wondering if the fitment issue noted by the other members were caused by sitting the winch on the bumper without the fairlead mounting plate. That plate is REQUIRED to mount the fairlead to the bumper and is 3/16" plate steel. this additional 3/16" will make a HUGE difference in this winch clearing. with mine mounted and fully torqued to the recommended 25-30lbs (i went 28lbs) i have about 1/16" of clearance. I took some pics and showed that there is clearance by passing a thick warning label that was in the box between the housing of the winch and the bumper. the winch must be orientated properly for it to fit without hitting the bumper. the mounting holes in the bumper allow for slight lateral movement when mounting. using this play, i centered the winch to have approx the same spacing between the housing and bumper on both sides. being that it is so tight of a tolerance, i could see different members having issues depending on the tolerances these bumpers are made to. i took a few pics to show the clearance on both sides and the label passing between. the winch is now off of my bumper as i am waiting for my power interrupt kit to wire it up. if u do experience a fitment issue, 2 pieces of 1/8" steel plate can be placed in between the winch and fairlead mount. this may or may not require longer hardware depending on what you are comfortable with. if u do buy new hardware ensure that you get the same thread size so you can retain the supplied nuts.
long winded but i hope this helps.
long winded but i hope this helps.
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update...I have the Bralwer Lite with trail stinger and a Warn Zeon 10-S. I'm using the poison spyder hawse fairlead mounting plate. It does fit on my bumper. The clearance between the bumper and the ends of the winch housing is very very very tight. it does clear however. I'm wondering if the fitment issue noted by the other members were caused by sitting the winch on the bumper without the fairlead mounting plate. That plate is REQUIRED to mount the fairlead to the bumper and is 3/16" plate steel. this additional 3/16" will make a HUGE difference in this winch clearing. with mine mounted and fully torqued to the recommended 25-30lbs (i went 28lbs) i have about 1/16" of clearance. I took some pics and showed that there is clearance by passing a thick warning label that was in the box between the housing of the winch and the bumper. the winch must be orientated properly for it to fit without hitting the bumper. the mounting holes in the bumper allow for slight lateral movement when mounting. using this play, i centered the winch to have approx the same spacing between the housing and bumper on both sides. being that it is so tight of a tolerance, i could see different members having issues depending on the tolerances these bumpers are made to. i took a few pics to show the clearance on both sides and the label passing between. the winch is now off of my bumper as i am waiting for my power interrupt kit to wire it up. if u do experience a fitment issue, 2 pieces of 1/8" steel plate can be placed in between the winch and fairlead mount. this may or may not require longer hardware depending on what you are comfortable with. if u do buy new hardware ensure that you get the same thread size so you can retain the supplied nuts.
long winded but i hope this helps.
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So I have an update. My bumper and winch arrived last night and I unpackaged everything so that I could set it up in the living room just to get an idea of how it would look. I gotta say, I'm not entirely sure how to feel about it. The bumper and winch are awesome in their own rite, but the combo seems strange to me. When I had looked at the dimensions online I didn't fully appreciate how massively huge the winch is. It takes up the whole bumper. It almost looks like the brawler bar was made to protect the winch. Haha. Maybe that's a good thing? Anyway, we'll see how I feel about it after it gets mounted on the Jeep, but for now I'm kinda on the fence.
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So I have an update. My bumper and winch arrived last night and I unpackaged everything so that I could set it up in the living room just to get an idea of how it would look. I gotta say, I'm not entirely sure how to feel about it. The bumper and winch are awesome in their own rite, but the combo seems strange to me. When I had looked at the dimensions online I didn't fully appreciate how massively huge the winch is. It takes up the whole bumper. It almost looks like the brawler bar was made to protect the winch. Haha. Maybe that's a good thing? Anyway, we'll see how I feel about it after it gets mounted on the Jeep, but for now I'm kinda on the fence.
from the psc website
The Brawler Bar is modeled after the bar found on our original RockBrawler front bumper. It is a low-profile stinger designed to provide protection to the winch, grille and radiator area.
not sure what you were expecting.
this winch has low profile. it is only a couple inches wider than some other models.
i think it looks freakin' sweet, but i am a bit biased. get in on the rig before u decide. it looks even better bolted up!