Metal Question reguarding building bumpers.
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Both the standard and heavy duty use a 1" diameter shaft at the bearing journal,
same as a 1000 lb rated trailer shaft. The 1.5" they state on there site is below the bearing journal. I also bought the Heavy duty.
google "Trailer spindle rating". The highest I find for a 1" shaft is 1250 lb rating.
Also see championtrailers.com/spindles_n_parts.htm
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Local Farm Supply shops have spindles here for 25-30 bucks and they are rated up to 2500#s a piece (5000 per axle). Another thing you might consider when picking your material for your build is your welder's ratings. Most 120 welders will have a HARD time welding 3/16 plate and may exceed the duty cycle and lead to a weaker weld with little penetration. If you have access to a 240 welder you will have a much easier time with the thicker material. The 10 gauge will be fine for most bumpers and your design will influence it's overall strength much more than the material selected. If you make a rectangle and punch it on the flat it will bend, if you have more bends and angles it will transfer the load better and can be built from lighter material. Also, internal rib reinforcements will add huge strength without alot of weight, think about a boat and the ribs that line the hull for an example.
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I have done a fair amount of fabricating and experiemented with alot of different metals. 10 GA is fine for the sheel of the front bumper but I would use atleast the 7 GA (3/16) for the mounts and the base of your winch plate, or better yet use 3 GA (1/4) for the mounts and winch plate. Either one will work fine.
You have to start thinking about weight. Using this heavy of metal adds weight VERY FAST. Next you need to think about how you are going to cut it. Cutting this metal can mean the difference between you ever doing it again or contiuning on to become a very good fabricator. In your average home shop you have common tools like a hande grinder with cut off wheels, Jug Saw with metal cutting blades, chop saw etc. Possible even a torch or plasma cutter. Cutting 3/16 or higher will require a torch or plasma cutter to cut it fast enough that you are not spending all day doing it. Think about those things when you are designing your build.
You have to start thinking about weight. Using this heavy of metal adds weight VERY FAST. Next you need to think about how you are going to cut it. Cutting this metal can mean the difference between you ever doing it again or contiuning on to become a very good fabricator. In your average home shop you have common tools like a hande grinder with cut off wheels, Jug Saw with metal cutting blades, chop saw etc. Possible even a torch or plasma cutter. Cutting 3/16 or higher will require a torch or plasma cutter to cut it fast enough that you are not spending all day doing it. Think about those things when you are designing your build.
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Just my .02, I run a fab shop with 12' Shears capable of 1/2", 200 Ton 12' brakes, Plasma table, Miller welders, exc…. I bought my bumpers from Poison Spyder. At some point your time and effort outweighs the reward. If you like a bumper style out there, go buy it and make the changes to it that you want. Don’t get me wrong, I love saying "I built that", but I chose to let PSC do the engineering and have the headaches. Money in the bank decision for me.
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Just my .02, I run a fab shop with 12' Shears capable of 1/2", 200 Ton 12' brakes, Plasma table, Miller welders, exc…. I bought my bumpers from Poison Spyder. At some point your time and effort outweighs the reward. If you like a bumper style out there, go buy it and make the changes to it that you want. Don’t get me wrong, I love saying "I built that", but I chose to let PSC do the engineering and have the headaches. Money in the bank decision for me.
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I agree with your statement 100% but he may not be at the money/time ratio you are. For years I built my own cause it was cheaper and I like metal fabrication. Now I have no time and do ok with the money (least for this year). But making your own bumpers is a good place to start to learn/love fab work so if you have the time and desire I say go for it.