C gussets
04-29-2009, 01:05 PM
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C gussets
Ok mabe this should go int he modified section. IDK
I have a stick welder and am capable of welding these C gussets on myself.
the question i have is what voltage should i run
and i was thinking 6013 for the electrode
i just want to get this right so i can make a clean, good looking weld and have it function to. just do it right the first time
I have a stick welder and am capable of welding these C gussets on myself.
the question i have is what voltage should i run
and i was thinking 6013 for the electrodei just want to get this right so i can make a clean, good looking weld and have it function to. just do it right the first time
04-30-2009, 01:03 AM
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1) It's likely going to get moved there as soon as a mod sees it.
2) If it's a stick welder you set the current (amps) not voltage. But no biggie, "amps required" depends on electrode type and diameter. For example I run 1/8" 6010 at 76-80 amps for roots, 86 for fills. I run 1/8" 7018 at 130 amps....
3) Can't say I've used a lot of 6013, I believe that's a rutile flux (has extra iron powder in it) so it'll lay a heavier deposit. Sure someone else can chime in.
4) Penetration isn't overly important for the gussets, the strength comes from the overall structure, not massive welds. Plus, you don't want to damage other components. So you're not gonna want to really burn it in. I'd run it just hot enough to make sure there's no porosity.
5) MIG would be a more ideal process, but a small enough electrode should do fine. Dumpster dive at a fab shop if need be and nab some scrap. Rip a couple practice beads before you get started.
04-30-2009, 05:46 PM
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1) It's likely going to get moved there as soon as a mod sees it.
2) If it's a stick welder you set the current (amps) not voltage. But no biggie, "amps required" depends on electrode type and diameter. For example I run 1/8" 6010 at 76-80 amps for roots, 86 for fills. I run 1/8" 7018 at 130 amps....
3) Can't say I've used a lot of 6013, I believe that's a rutile flux (has extra iron powder in it) so it'll lay a heavier deposit. Sure someone else can chime in.
4) Penetration isn't overly important for the gussets, the strength comes from the overall structure, not massive welds. Plus, you don't want to damage other components. So you're not gonna want to really burn it in. I'd run it just hot enough to make sure there's no porosity.
5) MIG would be a more ideal process, but a small enough electrode should do fine. Dumpster dive at a fab shop if need be and nab some scrap. Rip a couple practice beads before you get started.
2) If it's a stick welder you set the current (amps) not voltage. But no biggie, "amps required" depends on electrode type and diameter. For example I run 1/8" 6010 at 76-80 amps for roots, 86 for fills. I run 1/8" 7018 at 130 amps....
3) Can't say I've used a lot of 6013, I believe that's a rutile flux (has extra iron powder in it) so it'll lay a heavier deposit. Sure someone else can chime in.
4) Penetration isn't overly important for the gussets, the strength comes from the overall structure, not massive welds. Plus, you don't want to damage other components. So you're not gonna want to really burn it in. I'd run it just hot enough to make sure there's no porosity.
5) MIG would be a more ideal process, but a small enough electrode should do fine. Dumpster dive at a fab shop if need be and nab some scrap. Rip a couple practice beads before you get started.
i know MIG would be ideal, but with my current budget i cannot afford to pay someone to do it wrong. rather do it myself and rough it than anything else.
thanks for the reply. ill likly run both electrodes and do acouple test of both before i do the real deal.
Thanks again
04-30-2009, 07:46 PM
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Ok mabe this should go int he modified section. IDK
I have a stick welder and am capable of welding these C gussets on myself.
the question i have is what voltage should i runand i was thinking 6013 for the electrode
i just want to get this right so i can make a clean, good looking weld and have it function to. just do it right the first time
I have a stick welder and am capable of welding these C gussets on myself.
the question i have is what voltage should i run
and i was thinking 6013 for the electrodei just want to get this right so i can make a clean, good looking weld and have it function to. just do it right the first time
05-01-2009, 05:59 AM
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I would start off cool since you will be using stick rods, if you run too hot you may blow a hole through and they suck to fix if you do not have enough welding experience. 6010 or 6013 if you prefer but 7018 will be more than enough strength, will not stick as bad and you will not have nearly as much splatter and bb's all over the place. make sure you stitch weld it, an inch here an inch there or less, but like the others have said you want to keep it from getting the parent metal too hot and warping or bending, also grind the surfaces first and the welding will go much smoother, make sure you have a chipping hammer and wire brush and post pics when you are done!
that was about the time my dad showed me how to fix it. i have all the tool
just not enough money to get a new weldergood advice
05-01-2009, 06:26 AM
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You are local so run out to any Roberts Oxygen and pick up a 1# bag of UTP 612 5/64 rod. You can run this at 40-60 amps and still get great penetration. The tensile strength is 70,000, this stuff is super easy to work with. It ain't cheap, it runs $14.85 per # but worth every penney.
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You are local so run out to any Roberts Oxygen and pick up a 1# bag of UTP 612 5/64 rod. You can run this at 40-60 amps and still get great penetration. The tensile strength is 70,000, this stuff is super easy to work with. It ain't cheap, it runs $14.85 per # but worth every penney.
