Alternative Engine Swaps
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Cummins 4BT Diesel
*Horsepower - 105 hp @ 2,300 RPM #
*Torque - 265 lb-ft @ 1,600 RPM #
#Common rating, though horsepower & torque ratings may vary by application
Ford 3.5L V6 Ecoboost
* Horespower - 365 @ 5000 rpm
*Torque - 420 lb-ft @ 2500 rpm
Jeep 3.8-Liter V6
*Horsepower - 202 @ 5200 rpm
*Torque - 237 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Jeep 3.6 Pentastar
*Horsepower - 285 hp @
*Torque - 260 lb·ft @ 4,800 rpm
Jeep 2.5 CRD
*Horsepower - 140 @ 4000
*Torque - 253 @ 2000
Jeep 3.0 CRD
*Horsepower - 218 hp @ 3,800 rpm
*Torque- 377 ft/lbs @ 2000 RPM
Dodge 5.7-liter HEMI V8 MDS dual Variable Valve Timing
*Horespower - 390 @ 5900
*Torque - 407 @ 4000
LS1, 5.7L
*Horsepower - 350 @ 5,600 rpm
*Torque - 360 lb-ft @ 4,400 rpm
LS6, 5.7L ('01 Corvette)
*Horsepower - 385@6,000
*Torque - 385@4,800
If it were cheaper I'd honestly go the ecoboost route, its hard to beat its torque to RPM ratio not to mention the HP. But other than that, I'd go a diesel option.
*Horsepower - 105 hp @ 2,300 RPM #
*Torque - 265 lb-ft @ 1,600 RPM #
#Common rating, though horsepower & torque ratings may vary by application
Ford 3.5L V6 Ecoboost
* Horespower - 365 @ 5000 rpm
*Torque - 420 lb-ft @ 2500 rpm
Jeep 3.8-Liter V6
*Horsepower - 202 @ 5200 rpm
*Torque - 237 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Jeep 3.6 Pentastar
*Horsepower - 285 hp @
*Torque - 260 lb·ft @ 4,800 rpm
Jeep 2.5 CRD
*Horsepower - 140 @ 4000
*Torque - 253 @ 2000
Jeep 3.0 CRD
*Horsepower - 218 hp @ 3,800 rpm
*Torque- 377 ft/lbs @ 2000 RPM
Dodge 5.7-liter HEMI V8 MDS dual Variable Valve Timing
*Horespower - 390 @ 5900
*Torque - 407 @ 4000
LS1, 5.7L
*Horsepower - 350 @ 5,600 rpm
*Torque - 360 lb-ft @ 4,400 rpm
LS6, 5.7L ('01 Corvette)
*Horsepower - 385@6,000
*Torque - 385@4,800
If it were cheaper I'd honestly go the ecoboost route, its hard to beat its torque to RPM ratio not to mention the HP. But other than that, I'd go a diesel option.
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Also allot of states require the engine you swap in to be from the same make/ manufacturer and of the same model year, if not you wont be able to register it and drive it on the road.
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Either way, my original post was questioning a WJ engine in a JK so it would still be same manufacture.
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In all honesty, if I'm going to put in the effort for a swap then I'm putting in an 8cyl. The new 3.6 is probably nice, but the gain probably doesn't warrant the swap.
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the thing for me would be if the 3.6 swap is a relatively cheap process... i.e. buy long block, install. i don't know if it's that easy but it sure would be nice to know....
i'm not willing to pony up for a hemi, too much money. way more expensive than it's worth IMHO.
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the thing for me would be if the 3.6 swap is a relatively cheap process... i.e. buy long block, install. i don't know if it's that easy but it sure would be nice to know....
i'm not willing to pony up for a hemi, too much money. way more expensive than it's worth IMHO.
i'm not willing to pony up for a hemi, too much money. way more expensive than it's worth IMHO.
Which is exactly why my original post was regarding the other Grand Cherokee engine. I totally understand what you're getting at with the 3.6, but if the swap is going to cost more than 10k anyway, I would just like to see what else I can do that would yeild more power.
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The hemi is a decent V-8, the LS engines are sweet. But the main reason people are putting the above engines in is that it has been done before. Someone has went through the pain and even developed DIY kits. Which means the Jeep is not sitting in the garage for months while all the electronics, fitment, drivetrain, accessory problems are figured out.
Instead, with a kit it can be up and running in a couple weeks or less, with everything working like factory. A/C, ABS, guages work, no engine codes. And it can be done for 10 grand or less if you do it yourself. Still a chunk of money, but it is quite a difference.
No doubt someone could, and will, or somewhere already has, put many other engines in a JK. But they probably spent months figuring it out. Chasing computer codes, hunting for adapters, etc...
Many people do not have the skills, time, or desire to do that. Especially if the JK is their daily driver, they do not want it to be inoperative as a grand experiment for months. They would rather pony up the money and get er done.
Instead, with a kit it can be up and running in a couple weeks or less, with everything working like factory. A/C, ABS, guages work, no engine codes. And it can be done for 10 grand or less if you do it yourself. Still a chunk of money, but it is quite a difference.
No doubt someone could, and will, or somewhere already has, put many other engines in a JK. But they probably spent months figuring it out. Chasing computer codes, hunting for adapters, etc...
Many people do not have the skills, time, or desire to do that. Especially if the JK is their daily driver, they do not want it to be inoperative as a grand experiment for months. They would rather pony up the money and get er done.
Last edited by Yankee; 10-14-2011 at 03:42 AM.