clutch VS water
11-18-2009 | 01:00 PM
#11
JK Enthusiast
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From: FL
I am aware of that.
Are you at least willing to admit that your statement does not hold water? There are plenty of people (prob 95% or more) that wheel through water and don't have to replace the clutch every three years.....or ever for many. Shit, I my buddy's TJ is 10 years old and it has the original clutch, runs just fine. I just don't like that you come on an off-roading forum and tell someone false info, then say...."it's your JEEP." The implication is that I am going to have imminent clutch failure. This is not true. You have fallen into a trap that many people do on forums. You have a point (that's not to far off I acknowledge)....yet you make an EXTREME STATEMENT to try and prove your point. "Mud in your transmission.....don't expect to keep the same clutch for more than 3 years." B*llSh*t!
Learn about the terrain your are in and how to drive through it, and act accordingly. Sure, someone can get on here and say wheeling your JEEP is bad for it period. Well, I guess I shouldn't drive my sports car fast or shoot my gun either....wouldn't want to mess anything up.
Are you at least willing to admit that your statement does not hold water? There are plenty of people (prob 95% or more) that wheel through water and don't have to replace the clutch every three years.....or ever for many. Shit, I my buddy's TJ is 10 years old and it has the original clutch, runs just fine. I just don't like that you come on an off-roading forum and tell someone false info, then say...."it's your JEEP." The implication is that I am going to have imminent clutch failure. This is not true. You have fallen into a trap that many people do on forums. You have a point (that's not to far off I acknowledge)....yet you make an EXTREME STATEMENT to try and prove your point. "Mud in your transmission.....don't expect to keep the same clutch for more than 3 years." B*llSh*t!
Learn about the terrain your are in and how to drive through it, and act accordingly. Sure, someone can get on here and say wheeling your JEEP is bad for it period. Well, I guess I shouldn't drive my sports car fast or shoot my gun either....wouldn't want to mess anything up.
11-18-2009 | 01:03 PM
#12
JK Enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2007
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From: FL
I guess I'm not all to worried about the clutch lasting for the life of the vehicle. It is a wear item, like breaks. An afternoon and a couple of beers swaping out the clutch every 3 years isn't the end of the world. And I expect that the clutch will last long past 3 years.
As far as the transmission, well, I got a new one after 16000 miles. Gotta love the lifetime drive train warranty. However, the tranny failure had nothing to do with driving in water, it was a material failure.
As far as the transmission, well, I got a new one after 16000 miles. Gotta love the lifetime drive train warranty. However, the tranny failure had nothing to do with driving in water, it was a material failure.
Just remember why you got a JEEP and have fun. However, if you are serious about water (idk depth where you are) look into a snorkel....and RAISE YOUR BREATHERS. That is such an easy mod, and is such a good one to do.
11-18-2009 | 01:40 PM
#13
JK Super Freak
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From: Dayton, WA
11-19-2009 | 04:48 AM
#15
JK Super Freak
Joined: Feb 2007
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From: Dallas, Texas
I am aware of that.
Are you at least willing to admit that your statement does not hold water? There are plenty of people (prob 95% or more) that wheel through water and don't have to replace the clutch every three years.....or ever for many. Shit, I my buddy's TJ is 10 years old and it has the original clutch, runs just fine. I just don't like that you come on an off-roading forum and tell someone false info, then say...."it's your JEEP." The implication is that I am going to have imminent clutch failure. This is not true. You have fallen into a trap that many people do on forums. You have a point (that's not to far off I acknowledge)....yet you make an EXTREME STATEMENT to try and prove your point. "Mud in your transmission.....don't expect to keep the same clutch for more than 3 years." B*llSh*t!
Learn about the terrain your are in and how to drive through it, and act accordingly. Sure, someone can get on here and say wheeling your JEEP is bad for it period. Well, I guess I shouldn't drive my sports car fast or shoot my gun either....wouldn't want to mess anything up.
Are you at least willing to admit that your statement does not hold water? There are plenty of people (prob 95% or more) that wheel through water and don't have to replace the clutch every three years.....or ever for many. Shit, I my buddy's TJ is 10 years old and it has the original clutch, runs just fine. I just don't like that you come on an off-roading forum and tell someone false info, then say...."it's your JEEP." The implication is that I am going to have imminent clutch failure. This is not true. You have fallen into a trap that many people do on forums. You have a point (that's not to far off I acknowledge)....yet you make an EXTREME STATEMENT to try and prove your point. "Mud in your transmission.....don't expect to keep the same clutch for more than 3 years." B*llSh*t!
Learn about the terrain your are in and how to drive through it, and act accordingly. Sure, someone can get on here and say wheeling your JEEP is bad for it period. Well, I guess I shouldn't drive my sports car fast or shoot my gun either....wouldn't want to mess anything up.
This is my third manual Wrangler. I have never had any problems with any of my clutches and I lived in Florida for 11 years. Heck, my JK has been up the the fenders (close to the top) in muddy water many times over the last 3 years and I have never had a problem.
In my first two wranglers I have shifted gears through the water without any issues. That said, my 90 YJ bell housing was completed enclosed so its not a fair statement... but my 95 YJ does breath and I have not had any issues with that one.
11-19-2009 | 05:08 AM
#16
JK Super Freak
Joined: Jun 2008
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From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
This statement just plain doesn't hold water. (pun intended)
As a manual owner that's found himself in some relatively deep water, I'm with all of the other posters who have stated that if you keep your wits about you and shift using the key instead of the clutch, you'll be just fine.
If you want to deal with water that is actually deep (regardless of what transmission you have), then extend your breather tubes, get rid of your carpet, learn where your drain plugs are, buy a snorkel, pick up some dielectric grease...and remember that even with all that , you're still not driving a submarine.
As a manual owner that's found himself in some relatively deep water, I'm with all of the other posters who have stated that if you keep your wits about you and shift using the key instead of the clutch, you'll be just fine.
If you want to deal with water that is actually deep (regardless of what transmission you have), then extend your breather tubes, get rid of your carpet, learn where your drain plugs are, buy a snorkel, pick up some dielectric grease...and remember that even with all that , you're still not driving a submarine.
11-19-2009 | 05:21 PM
#17
JK Jedi
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,730
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From: BC
This statement just plain doesn't hold water. (pun intended)
As a manual owner that's found himself in some relatively deep water, I'm with all of the other posters who have stated that if you keep your wits about you and shift using the key instead of the clutch, you'll be just fine.
If you want to deal with water that is actually deep (regardless of what transmission you have), then extend your breather tubes, get rid of your carpet, learn where your drain plugs are, buy a snorkel, pick up some dielectric grease...and remember that even with all that , you're still not driving a submarine.
As a manual owner that's found himself in some relatively deep water, I'm with all of the other posters who have stated that if you keep your wits about you and shift using the key instead of the clutch, you'll be just fine.
If you want to deal with water that is actually deep (regardless of what transmission you have), then extend your breather tubes, get rid of your carpet, learn where your drain plugs are, buy a snorkel, pick up some dielectric grease...and remember that even with all that , you're still not driving a submarine.