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Rebel offroad's JK HID conversion kit

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Old 09-10-2013 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeep 4 ever

I've been getting negative feedback from different people lol. They must not be worth it.
That wasn't negative. I'm considering going led.
Old 09-11-2013 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Kojack
what is the difference with these and other plug and play kits?
I guess nothing. Watch glare in fog and snow with any hid kit. When I had mine in the headlights it was Damn near impossible to drive in heavy fog or snow because of stray light being kicked up from the stock headlight reflectors. On clear nights there was nothing better, on nights with bad weather there was nothing worse.
Old 09-11-2013 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Kojack
I guess nothing. Watch glare in fog and snow with any hid kit. When I had mine in the headlights it was Damn near impossible to drive in heavy fog or snow because of stray light being kicked up from the stock headlight reflectors. On clear nights there was nothing better, on nights with bad weather there was nothing worse.
Your experience makes perfect sense. The cutoff of the stock reflectors is surprisingly good with the HIDs but there are still some spill over spikes that convert to 100% glare when there is moisture in the air.
Old 09-11-2013 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by spinlock
Your experience makes perfect sense. The cutoff of the stock reflectors is surprisingly good with the HIDs but there are still some spill over spikes that convert to 100% glare when there is moisture in the air.
yep, I was snow blind in town with street lights one night. it was that evening that I pulled them out and put in phillips xtra vision. much better.
Old 09-11-2013 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeep 4 ever
Has anybody ever went with rebel offroad's HID conversion kit? What is your feedback on them?
I never had any problem with my Truck-Lites no matter how much snow was coming down.
Old 09-12-2013 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Macman1138
I never had any problem with my Truck-Lites no matter how much snow was coming down.
No, I believe truck lite and JW have correct pattern for snow as they are a designed system. only issue I have with those lights are the snow build up and having to stop to clear them off while traveling.

the HID retros are what is being discussed. no matter what you buy, they are all the same. my retro's had great cut off in clear nights, once you add heavy fog, rain or snow, you are blind because of light spill.
Old 09-12-2013 | 04:16 PM
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x2.

The TLs and JWs have a well-defined cutoff which eliminates spurious rays; although the distribution pattern they create inside the cutoff region is different.

The problem we are discussing is not even with the Rebel HID kit itself. It is the stock JK reflector which works *pretty* well under most conditions with the HID but has problems in poor weather conditions. the volume of light of an HID bulb (like the Rebel unit) is 2-3X that of an equivalent Halogen bulb (like JK stock bulb) and the color spectrum distribution has more spikes which is used to control color temperature. The net result is that even if the the JK stock reflectors perfectly focused the light from the stock bulb (which is hard to tell because it so weak), it it is highly improbable it will do so for an HID bulb.

In any case, the Rebel kit is not a bad cost effective, albeit not road legal, option for those living in mostly dry conditions like SoCal where rain makes headline news, there are no state vehicle inspections and its a light jungle on the roads.
Old 09-13-2013 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by spinlock
x2.

The TLs and JWs have a well-defined cutoff which eliminates spurious rays; although the distribution pattern they create inside the cutoff region is different.

The problem we are discussing is not even with the Rebel HID kit itself. It is the stock JK reflector which works *pretty* well under most conditions with the HID but has problems in poor weather conditions. the volume of light of an HID bulb (like the Rebel unit) is 2-3X that of an equivalent Halogen bulb (like JK stock bulb) and the color spectrum distribution has more spikes which is used to control color temperature. The net result is that even if the the JK stock reflectors perfectly focused the light from the stock bulb (which is hard to tell because it so weak), it it is highly improbable it will do so for an HID bulb.

In any case, the Rebel kit is not a bad cost effective, albeit not road legal, option for those living in mostly dry conditions like SoCal where rain makes headline news, there are no state vehicle inspections and its a light jungle on the roads.
Yes, however, why spend twice as much on the rebel kit when its exactly the same as any other HID kit. There is no difference in the two only price.
Old 09-14-2013 | 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Kojack
Yes, however, why spend twice as much on the rebel kit when its exactly the same as any other HID kit. There is no difference in the two only price.
Personally, as much as i like the flexibility in color and volume of light, I discarded the HID bulb option in the stock housing after I saw it in action head on from a distance. The starbust pattern is undeniable.

I thought there was some value in the plug-and-play nature of the bulbs, harnesses and ballasts but it sounds like there are other equivalent options. Just focusing on the bulbs, if you just walk down the lighting aisle at the auto parts store you'll find dozens of bulbs labeled Xenon which in street terms usually translates to HID, but upon close inspection of many of them, the glass is painted or tinted and there are 1-2 filaments inside.
Old 09-14-2013 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by spinlock

Personally, as much as i like the flexibility in color and volume of light, I discarded the HID bulb option in the stock housing after I saw it in action head on from a distance. The starbust pattern is undeniable.

I thought there was some value in the plug-and-play nature of the bulbs, harnesses and ballasts but it sounds like there are other equivalent options. Just focusing on the bulbs, if you just walk down the lighting aisle at the auto parts store you'll find dozens of bulbs labeled Xenon which in street terms usually translates to HID, but upon close inspection of many of them, the glass is painted or tinted and there are 1-2 filaments inside.
I'm talking about rebels kit and a comparable kit from other sources at 1/2 the price not crap from walmart




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