Rebel offroad's JK HID conversion kit
#12
I guess nothing. Watch glare in fog and snow with any hid kit. When I had mine in the headlights it was Damn near impossible to drive in heavy fog or snow because of stray light being kicked up from the stock headlight reflectors. On clear nights there was nothing better, on nights with bad weather there was nothing worse.
#13
I guess nothing. Watch glare in fog and snow with any hid kit. When I had mine in the headlights it was Damn near impossible to drive in heavy fog or snow because of stray light being kicked up from the stock headlight reflectors. On clear nights there was nothing better, on nights with bad weather there was nothing worse.
#14
yep, I was snow blind in town with street lights one night. it was that evening that I pulled them out and put in phillips xtra vision. much better.
#15
#16
the HID retros are what is being discussed. no matter what you buy, they are all the same. my retro's had great cut off in clear nights, once you add heavy fog, rain or snow, you are blind because of light spill.
#17
x2.
The TLs and JWs have a well-defined cutoff which eliminates spurious rays; although the distribution pattern they create inside the cutoff region is different.
The problem we are discussing is not even with the Rebel HID kit itself. It is the stock JK reflector which works *pretty* well under most conditions with the HID but has problems in poor weather conditions. the volume of light of an HID bulb (like the Rebel unit) is 2-3X that of an equivalent Halogen bulb (like JK stock bulb) and the color spectrum distribution has more spikes which is used to control color temperature. The net result is that even if the the JK stock reflectors perfectly focused the light from the stock bulb (which is hard to tell because it so weak), it it is highly improbable it will do so for an HID bulb.
In any case, the Rebel kit is not a bad cost effective, albeit not road legal, option for those living in mostly dry conditions like SoCal where rain makes headline news, there are no state vehicle inspections and its a light jungle on the roads.
The TLs and JWs have a well-defined cutoff which eliminates spurious rays; although the distribution pattern they create inside the cutoff region is different.
The problem we are discussing is not even with the Rebel HID kit itself. It is the stock JK reflector which works *pretty* well under most conditions with the HID but has problems in poor weather conditions. the volume of light of an HID bulb (like the Rebel unit) is 2-3X that of an equivalent Halogen bulb (like JK stock bulb) and the color spectrum distribution has more spikes which is used to control color temperature. The net result is that even if the the JK stock reflectors perfectly focused the light from the stock bulb (which is hard to tell because it so weak), it it is highly improbable it will do so for an HID bulb.
In any case, the Rebel kit is not a bad cost effective, albeit not road legal, option for those living in mostly dry conditions like SoCal where rain makes headline news, there are no state vehicle inspections and its a light jungle on the roads.
#18
x2.
The TLs and JWs have a well-defined cutoff which eliminates spurious rays; although the distribution pattern they create inside the cutoff region is different.
The problem we are discussing is not even with the Rebel HID kit itself. It is the stock JK reflector which works *pretty* well under most conditions with the HID but has problems in poor weather conditions. the volume of light of an HID bulb (like the Rebel unit) is 2-3X that of an equivalent Halogen bulb (like JK stock bulb) and the color spectrum distribution has more spikes which is used to control color temperature. The net result is that even if the the JK stock reflectors perfectly focused the light from the stock bulb (which is hard to tell because it so weak), it it is highly improbable it will do so for an HID bulb.
In any case, the Rebel kit is not a bad cost effective, albeit not road legal, option for those living in mostly dry conditions like SoCal where rain makes headline news, there are no state vehicle inspections and its a light jungle on the roads.
The TLs and JWs have a well-defined cutoff which eliminates spurious rays; although the distribution pattern they create inside the cutoff region is different.
The problem we are discussing is not even with the Rebel HID kit itself. It is the stock JK reflector which works *pretty* well under most conditions with the HID but has problems in poor weather conditions. the volume of light of an HID bulb (like the Rebel unit) is 2-3X that of an equivalent Halogen bulb (like JK stock bulb) and the color spectrum distribution has more spikes which is used to control color temperature. The net result is that even if the the JK stock reflectors perfectly focused the light from the stock bulb (which is hard to tell because it so weak), it it is highly improbable it will do so for an HID bulb.
In any case, the Rebel kit is not a bad cost effective, albeit not road legal, option for those living in mostly dry conditions like SoCal where rain makes headline news, there are no state vehicle inspections and its a light jungle on the roads.
#19
I thought there was some value in the plug-and-play nature of the bulbs, harnesses and ballasts but it sounds like there are other equivalent options. Just focusing on the bulbs, if you just walk down the lighting aisle at the auto parts store you'll find dozens of bulbs labeled Xenon which in street terms usually translates to HID, but upon close inspection of many of them, the glass is painted or tinted and there are 1-2 filaments inside.
#20
Personally, as much as i like the flexibility in color and volume of light, I discarded the HID bulb option in the stock housing after I saw it in action head on from a distance. The starbust pattern is undeniable.
I thought there was some value in the plug-and-play nature of the bulbs, harnesses and ballasts but it sounds like there are other equivalent options. Just focusing on the bulbs, if you just walk down the lighting aisle at the auto parts store you'll find dozens of bulbs labeled Xenon which in street terms usually translates to HID, but upon close inspection of many of them, the glass is painted or tinted and there are 1-2 filaments inside.