budmanm3

From about 20 feet from my garage door..

Not sure if this will help any.

Here is the Revolvers only..



And here is the 6 cube spots (a pillar position) only

Terry Hesticles

This is exactly what I've been searching the net for. Thanks a lot!

Those look great and bright. If i can get someone else that's not a pitchman for Vision X to do the same with their lights, I'll be able to make a decision. Unless someone comes along with another plug and play spot.

GJeep

For those who are interested in improving the lights in a productive way... :

More important than a few more or less Lumen, is the choice of the right light for the job.

The foglight location is good for -
a) True foglights (fog is thinner right above the road. There's also less reflection from fog/snow/heavy rain/thick dust.
b) Flood lights which light a trail or a dark road, including the sides.

The low foglight location, is the worst place for spots:
The light is blocked by every protrusion/bump on the trail, so the rest of the way is in the dark. Every concave is shadowed.
That's a waste of money, and a waste of the location which could be used much more efficiently.

Using the whole Jeep as an "adjustable mount" of a spot light is "a bit" awkward, while there are plenty of good spot or search lights which can be easily mounted higher up on a Jeep and easily aimed, regardless of how the Jeep is parked.

irongate

Very true on what you have said.

Terry Hesticles

"For those who are interested in improving the lights in a productive way"

Despite your passive aggressiveness, I will respond in a civil manner.

A. Yes, I'm aware that bumper-mounted fog locations are best used for fog. However, I do not require the use of fogs except maybe 2 days a year.
B. Another great point, but I have other lights for this. We used A-pillar mounted D2 floods at the campground last year and the light fell off before it could be totally useful. It helped, but we needed something with a bit more reach. And they were still blinding when walking back.

Theorectically, yes, a low-mounted spot isn't the best idea. However, my Jeep is lifted and will be lifted even higher, and the fact that they're lower-mounted spots is the exact reason why I'm looking for the tightest beam possible. The tighter the beam, the more I can throw usable light up ahead and not illuminate the immediate foreground like I could with a less expensive fog, like the OEM fogs I have now and don't even use. I've mentioned before that it's not about lumens, but about the beam. I don't care of it's 3 lumens vs 3,000, if the 3 lumen light puts the beam where I want it, I'll take it over the 3,000 lumen light that spreads it in all directions.

In my original post, you'll see that video showing the Vision X with a very tight beam pattern with almost no light bleed. Just about every speck of light is focused on a very concentrated circle. Not only this, but I believe they are slightly adjustable. Probably not as much as headlights, but enough to keep them off the ground and directed out in front. Even if not, the tighter the beam, the more useful the light to me.

Everything you've mentioned here isn't wrong, but it's nothing I'm not already aware of. Every driver has different needs and uses for every application, and spots in my bumper that don't require a new switch, new mounts, and routing new wires is perfect for me and what I need to use them for.

I live in Oklahoma. The camping area is flat. The other offroad uses I'm thinking of are places I frequent, which are also completely flat. These will not be my rock crawling lights, my mudding lights, my mountain trail lights, etc. The camp site is blocked by a few trees, so despite a Jeep's offroad capabilities, squeezing through a few big trees only a few feet apart is not physically possible. However, past these trees is the open area with a very leafy backdrop. The light should shine perfectly for pitching a tent and bouncing off the backdrop to give even more ambient light.

GJeep

Cameras often tend to exaggerate image contrast in such lighting conditions. Exposed for the strong light spot, the bleed would look dimmer than it really is.
BTW, there's a dark spot in the middle of the Vision-X light spread.

I hope you won't be disappointed, because a low mounted spot, lighting parallel to the ground, shows that what seems to be flat, isn't that flat.

Yes, it may shine, on one side of the tent. The other side will be in the shade. So, at best, spots would solve half the problem.

Portable & rechargeable LED light(s) solve it all, and the light is much more pleasant for working than the sharp light from a spot, but that's how I see it. Of course, you may see it differently.

neZZr

This video has a nice comparison of the Rigid cubes and VisionX Light Cannon. The canons are seriously impressive. Sorta makes me wish I held out and put them on my a-pillar instead of the cubes.

http://youtu.be/jX3oQDYIZmM

GJeep

A Vision-X dealer, who claims to be a Vision-X fan, compares Vision-X to Rigid… what results did you expect?

A fair comparison would have been between the stronger Vision-X and a stronger Rigid, such as the D2, but the D2 is – what a surprise – ignored…

The “comparison" includes plain deception.
For instance, at 12:27, you clearly see that the Vision-X has very strong and wide-angle bleed, which couldn’t be seen earlier on the wall, because it's so wide that it was outside the frame.
The much stronger bleed of the Vision-X, which is way off the 10 degree beam, is highly visible in the picture, yet, he simply lied about the "larger Rigid bleed" vs the tight spot of the other...
This wide Vision-X bleed also explains why the tree top is brighter… of course it is... the tree top is well outside of the “10 degree” spot beam…

Unfortunately, people who are less familiar with all aspects of lights and lighting, are convinced by such misleading advertisements.

There’s more nonsense and deception which I won’t go into here. Ah, maybe one more point:
He talks about the 'advantage of the little bit more yellowish light color of the Vision-X in bad weather or fog'. Nonsense. The color difference is way too small to improve visibility in foul weather, vs the Rigid.

This video is anything but a fair and objective comparison between the two companies.

Terry Hesticles

All of this is why I initially said here that I wanted a user picture of the lights because I didn't want to fall victim to a Vision X-biased vendor's overhyped description.

The light output from this light looks different than the one from the light with the smaller lens, like from the video in my first post.

neZZr

I have no allegiance either way, but ignoring his input, the pictures and side-by-side video comparisons are hard to ignore. I don't know why he chose the dually over a D2, but considering the dually is considerably cheaper than the canon at least when I checked before making my purchase, I'd say the video makes the dually look pretty darn good compared to a more expensive product.

I have duallys on my a-pillar, but I'm honestly not 100% happy with their light output for the price paid. Compared to the MUCH cheaper Kawell lights my buddy put on his pickup, I'm even less impressed. I do at least have Rigid to stand behind the product, which my friends China lights don't have, but I really expected the duallys to be brighter and better focused.