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Questions/input about plug-and-play LED spot lights for JK bumper

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Old 01-24-2015, 09:12 PM
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Default Questions/input about plug-and-play LED spot lights for JK bumper

Like the title suggests, I am looking for a plug and play LED fog in a spot pattern. I know there are tons of other LED fog light threads, but I've looked through all of them, even on other forums, and the vast majority seem to focus only on flood-patterned fogs. These will not be used on the road or for cutting through fog and rain, so I'm not interested in the Trucklite and JW Speaker flood-patterned fogs. I want these for offroad use and especially for the upcoming camping season, for throwing light far down the path ahead and into our usual campsite where vehicles, including Jeeps, just can't go.

So far, I'm aware of only 4 different plug-n-play fogs in spot patterns and there's two models each made by two manufacturers.

First are the Inspired Engineering Cubes:
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These, I believe, are an 8 degree pattern putting out 1600 lumens (I imagine this is a raw lumens calculation) and without including any forum discounts are $210.

Next are the Inspired Engineering Revolvers:


These, I believe, are also 8 degree pattern putting out 1400 lumens (again, probably raw) and without any forum discounts they go for $220.

Next are the Vision X whatever random model number they use for these:
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These are a 10 degree pattern putting out 1,720 [probably raw] lumens and go for $300.

Finally, the ones I'm leaning towards, are the other OEM replacement fogs made by Vision X:
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These are also a 10 degree pattern putting out 1,800 raw, 700 effective lumens and go for $369.

The reason I'm leaning towards this is because of this comparison video by Headlight Revolution:
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn7bmJw3umI If you skip to the 25:10 mark you'll see the light pattern. Despite being a 10 degree spot versus the Inspired Engineering's 8 degree, this video compared to the pics of IE's spot lights I've seen shows a MUCH tighter light pattern with almost no light bleed. Granted, I've seen only a few pics of IE spots, but the Vision X has the pattern I'm looking for. The thing that makes me hesitant of that video, though, is the fact that Headlight Revolution seems to really push Vision X products. I understand they're great, but I don't want to fall victim to a vendor over-hyping the product.

If you're using any of the above lights, I'd love to hear your input. I'd really love to see your driver's side view of the lights, especially against a wall. I know these will all throw some light, but I'm really wanting a super concentrated light pattern, which is why I'm looking for a wall pic.

Are there other plug-n-play LED spot-patterned fogs that I'm not aware of? I'm open to other suggestions so long as they meet the following criteria:

Plug-n-play
Concentrated spot beam (concentrated spot is redundant, I know, but I want a light with little to no bleeding)
LED
Between 5,000-6,000K light temp

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You can also get the inspired engineering 6 led cubes for the fog light location. PM Sami@inspired-engineering and he can get you a quote. Definitely great products from them.
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For the price you can't beat the inspired engineering stuff. Sami is great to work with and they offer lifetime warranty on their products..
I have their revolvers floods for fog setup and their 6 cube spots for the pillars. They both put out great light.

As said above, look into the 6 cube for the fog as they put out some good concentrated light. I can try and get some pics later of each setup on the wall for ya if you still want. I gave some on my phone just can remember which lights I had on at the time lol..
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Originally Posted by budmanm3
For the price you can't beat the inspired engineering stuff. Sami is great to work with and they offer lifetime warranty on their products..
I have their revolvers floods for fog setup and their 6 cube spots for the pillars. They both put out great light.

As said above, look into the 6 cube for the fog as they put out some good concentrated light. I can try and get some pics later of each setup on the wall for ya if you still want. I gave some on my phone just can remember which lights I had on at the time lol..
Actually, yes, if you have pics, especially against the wall, I'd love to see them. Pending research, I'm ready to pull the trigger on something.
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The Inspired Engineering with the 6 LEDs is X1.5 the Lumen of the one with 4 LEDs, and not vice versa.

You may want to consider these points:

# Going back to the Jeep, with 2 spots aimed right at the eyes, is not ‘convenient’.

# Have you calculated the light spread of 8 vs 10 degree light spread, for the distance between the Jeep and the camp? Does the 2 degree spread difference really matter?

# Low mounted spotlight may not be ideal, as parts of the way may be in deep shadow.
The following sketch was made for another use, but the principal applies to walking from the Jeep to the camp & back:

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When walking towards a light, especially a spotlight, our eyes adapt to the strong light level. We become blind to whatever is outside the light circle, including right in front of us, if it's a shadowed depression or indentation that's.

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Originally Posted by GJeep
The Inspired Engineering with the 6 LEDs is X1.5 the Lumen of the one with 4 LEDs, and not vice versa.

You may want to consider these points:

# Going back to the Jeep, with 2 spots aimed right at the eyes, is not ‘convenient’.

# Have you calculated the light spread of 8 vs 10 degree light spread, for the distance between the Jeep and the camp? Does the 2 degree spread difference really matter?

# Low mounted spotlight may not be ideal, as parts of the way may be in deep shadow.
The following sketch was made for another use, but the principal applies to walking from the Jeep to the camp & back:

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The lumens I quoted were directly from their site. I'm less concerned about the numbers and more concerned with how usable the light is coupled with the tightness of the pattern.

I'm not sure what you mean about aiming the lights right at the eyes not being convenient. These will not be used on the road with traffic or for foggy conditions, if that's what you mean.

I know the difference between 8 and 10 is negligible, but theoretically the IE lights should be a more concentrated beam. From the pics I've seen compared to that video i posted above, the IE lights have way more light bleed. They look great and bright and this isn't a rip on their products, but for my purposes I need a beam as concentrated as possible. If someone has pics showing their beam pattern against the wall, it might show otherwise. I've only seen the pattern of the IEs shooting down driveways and roads.

From where we usually park from the site, the lights should spread perfectly to light up the site while setting up in the dark. With all the flat land in Oklahoma, spots in the bumper should work just fine, shooting enough light up the path ahead. Your image is exactly why I want a beam as concentrated as possible.

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Originally Posted by Terry Hesticles
The lumens I quoted were directly from their site.
6 LEDs give 1400 Lumen, while 4 of the same LEDs give 1600 Lumen?! ...
Read their website again.

I'm not sure what you mean about aiming the lights right at the eyes not being convenient. These will not be used on the road with traffic or for foggy conditions, if that's what you mean.
That's not at all what what I said. Read that post again.

Besides, a portable spotlight, mounted it so it can be aimed at the distant camping place, is much simpler and straight forward than maneuvering a Jeep left-right-up-down to light a small spot at a distance...

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Originally Posted by GJeep

6 LEDs give 1400 Lumen, while 4 of the same LEDs give 1600 Lumen?! ...
Read their website again.

That's not at all what what I said. Read that post again.

Besides, a portable spotlight, mounted it so it can be aimed at the distant camping place, is much simpler and straight forward than maneuvering a Jeep left-right-up-down to light a small spot at a distance...
I'm not sure what I'm missing. Their site is pretty clear.


1600 lumens for the 4 diode Cube:
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1400 lumens for the 6 diode Revolver:
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It's not the number of lights, but their power. Those Vision X lights both put out more lumens than the above IE lights and they do it with a single LED.

I misunderstood the "back to the Jeep" to mean "changing the subject back to the Jeep", not "walking back to the Jeep". My bad. As far as that's concerned, we'll be alright. Plus, i want these for other off road uses anyway.

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I think he's refering to the 6cubes that I posted earlier.
Which have 2120 lumens.
http://www.inspired-engineering.com/...=IE%2D6Special

They can be used in the fog light location as well.
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Originally Posted by espi
I think he's refering to the 6cubes that I posted earlier.
Which have 2120 lumens.
http://www.inspired-engineering.com/...=IE%2D6Special

They can be used in the fog light location as well.
I guess so, though it's a remark oddly out of place considering I never compared the two before his statement and your post right here is the first time in this entire thread anyone mentioned the exact lumens of the 6Cube.

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