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Old 08-19-2008 | 11:50 AM
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Hook your vehicle up to a star scan and have it set to export mode. This will allow the fog lights to stay on while the high beams are on.

I tried to get this done at a dealership here in Canada and they said no because it would disable the day time running lights.
i think you told me to do that last time we discussed this! i will do it next time i'm at the dealer, THANX!
Old 08-19-2008 | 11:55 AM
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I have my KC fogs wired with a relay just like the directions say, but instead of running the trigger wire to the switch from the kit, i ran it to the hotwire for the passenger side factory fog, so they function off of the factory stalk switch, but draw power direct from the battery. And are entirely legal, to any inspector.


Now... if i where to run a second switched trigger wire to the relay input...
Old 08-19-2008 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Octo
Hook your vehicle up to a star scan and have it set to export mode. This will allow the fog lights to stay on while the high beams are on.

I tried to get this done at a dealership here in Canada and they said no because it would disable the day time running lights.
I have heard that this doesnt work on all Jeeps? i dunno if it's a year thing or what. ~just something i heard, unsure if it's accurate or not. Would be interesting to see though.

With my luck, if i tried it, my steering wheel would roll to the right side, my bumpers would stretch forward and sideways, it'd grow rear bumper lights, and reak of diesel.
Old 08-19-2008 | 12:09 PM
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i was thinking along the lines of installing a relay to the fogs and wiring the relay to a key-on source in fusebox.
this would effectively give me 'all time' running fogs. can anyone think of a
reason that that would be undesirable?

maybe a small toggle in there too just in case i wanted to creep around at night
Old 08-19-2008 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyin'Squirrel
i was thinking along the lines of installing a relay to the fogs and wiring the relay to a key-on source in fusebox.
this would effectively give me 'all time' running fogs. can anyone think of a
reason that that would be undesirable?

maybe a small toggle in there too just in case i wanted to creep around at night

besides the fact that it can hinder visibility in certain situations, and possibly be illegal, nope, no reason.

I like the ability to turn mine on and off whenever I want them on or off. I guess it's just my personal aversion to "big brother" telling me what to do at every turn.
Old 08-19-2008 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyCurmudgeon
I have my KC fogs wired with a relay just like the directions say, but instead of running the trigger wire to the switch from the kit, i ran it to the hotwire for the passenger side factory fog, so they function off of the factory stalk switch, but draw power direct from the battery. And are entirely legal, to any inspector.


Now... if i where to run a second switched trigger wire to the relay input...
Thats how I wired my Hella lights too, they work just like the factory fogs did.
I also used a second trigger wire (from the headlights high beam)....
So now whenever I turn on my high beams, the fogs kick on too, even if they were off before hand

We dont have inspections here so I dont have to worry about anything, but If I did, I'd just put a hidden switch on the high beam trigger wire that would disconnect it for inspections
Old 08-19-2008 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyCurmudgeon
I have heard that this doesnt work on all Jeeps? i dunno if it's a year thing or what. ~just something i heard, unsure if it's accurate or not. Would be interesting to see though.

so if it doesn't work...
i'm thinking i can run a jumper wire to the high beam power wire? so they're on with my switch, then when the highs go on they would remain on? does that sound like it would work? if so, what kind of relay, etc would i need?
Old 08-20-2008 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by putnam dan
A good demonstration of why it's illegal. Imagine coming towards that at night
Agree 110%.
Years ago my wife was driving a dark unlit road and as she rounded a turn, that is what she saw. Because some idiot had all his lights wired so he could have them on together, she ran off the road into a ditch. A lucky thing is a cop was following about a quater mile behind and saw the same thing. The asshole didn't even stop to see if my wife was okay. She was and that's an even luckier thing.
Old 08-20-2008 | 08:51 AM
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I agree wholeheartedly that is a bad idea on the road. For all the reasons stated. My lights ARE wired 100% legally for road use in NY.


I am only speaking FOR OFFROAD USE. As I am not always on the road when i need lights, I therefore like the ability to turn them on/off as I see fit. It isnt hard to do if you are using aftermarket relays, but i know of no way to do it easily with the factory wiring. To the absolute best of my knowledge, the relays that control what is on with what, are actually logic circuits inside the computer, therefor no golden egg magic jumper placement for an easy fix.

If anyone has other info, or a way to do this easily, by all means, please speak up! Not everyone here is subject to the same state laws, some people could benefit from the info.
Old 08-20-2008 | 11:56 AM
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ok i rarely, if ever, use high beams. city streets and anywhere where there are other cars i dont touch em at all.
low beams w/ fogs lit is ample light. aimed properly, they dont jack peoples' eyes up. well except for the ricers
that i pull up behind at a red light- but im not losing sleep over 'em

what i was talking about was a small empty road in the middle of the woods
which i was traveling 50 mph down. there were hills and such that made
visibility sketchy. when i tried the high beams for better distance/coverage
there had to be somewhere around 40% lighting loss due to the fogs turning
off and highs only. was a little scary.

now i hope people know that if you're approaching a hill and the top of it is glowing, that means an
approaching car is coming- or a UFO! its prudent, wise, and mandatory to flip your lights to low beams.

besides, i mentioned a small toggle to disable running fogs w/high beams in situations such that require it.



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