Dual battery set up
12-10-2011, 12:50 PM
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This douchebag is about 30 minutes away from me... I'll go drive up to lake Stevens and get his home address for you. I might suggest filing Internet fraud charges on him. Feel free to pm me if you want additional information.
12-10-2011, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JB7JEEP
Thanks alot for your help Vin. I own an electronics manufacturing company, maybe I should source all the parts (isolators, tray, cables, etc) and sell the setup as a top quality kit like Benchmark did. Seems like there is still a bunch of Jeep guys out there looking for them!
12-10-2011, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JB7JEEP
Thanks alot for your help Vin. I own an electronics manufacturing company, maybe I should source all the parts (isolators, tray, cables, etc) and sell the setup as a top quality kit like Benchmark did. Seems like there is still a bunch of Jeep guys out there looking for them!
12-10-2011, 03:58 PM
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all the isolators they make are here (including the 250 brick)
looking at this one myself
hxxp://www.colehersee.com/home/item/cat/211/48530
see d617 for explination
hxxp://www.colehersee.com/home/hotfeeds
few tray options
hxxp://www.4wd.com/Jeep-Performance-Electrical/Dual-Battery-Tray-by-Mountain-Off-Road-Enterprises-for-Jeep.aspx?t_c=72&t_s=12&t_pt=3691&t_pn=MREJKDBT070 9
hxxp://www.4wd.com/Jeep-Performance-Electrical/Dual-Battery-Tray-by-Rugged-Ridge-for-Jeep.aspx?t_c=72&t_s=12&t_pt=3691&t_pn=RUG11214.53
looking at this one myself
hxxp://www.colehersee.com/home/item/cat/211/48530
see d617 for explination
hxxp://www.colehersee.com/home/hotfeeds
few tray options
hxxp://www.4wd.com/Jeep-Performance-Electrical/Dual-Battery-Tray-by-Mountain-Off-Road-Enterprises-for-Jeep.aspx?t_c=72&t_s=12&t_pt=3691&t_pn=MREJKDBT070 9
hxxp://www.4wd.com/Jeep-Performance-Electrical/Dual-Battery-Tray-by-Rugged-Ridge-for-Jeep.aspx?t_c=72&t_s=12&t_pt=3691&t_pn=RUG11214.53
12-10-2011, 04:02 PM
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Thanks alot for your help Vin. I own an electronics manufacturing company, maybe I should source all the parts (isolators, tray, cables, etc) and sell the setup as a top quality kit like Benchmark did. Seems like there is still a bunch of Jeep guys out there looking for them!
I was an early and fortunate Benchmark Stage 3 customer, and their dual package is well thought out, simple to install and has performed perfectly. It provides peace of mind and reliable excursion performance, and sad that this terrific package has been shot due to customer service.
I'm sure many are like me, I'm comfortable and experienced to try any mechanical installation and upgrade but electricals are a different ball game ! I wanted and received a complete ready to install package with no guessing or electrical prowess needed.
There is a desperate market for this, and many would welcome a solid competitor.
12-10-2011, 04:21 PM
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I agree 100%. A lot (most?) people have got too many other things on their plate to worry about integration issues on their jeeps. Complete, tested and warrantied packages are the way to go for them. But be forewarned, the demand can overwhelm the supplier! A good example is one (unnamed cause they are good people and don't deserve negative feedback) headlight upgrade package supplier who filled a need for a total solution and was hit with such an avalanche of new orders that they couldn't keep up, even after hiring more staff. That's a good problem to have, IMO.
12-11-2011, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JB7JEEP
Ok guys, you all are confirming what I already thought. As you read, I am also a victim of never receiving what I paid for. Just to let you know, it is my intention to get this kit together in the next 30 and market it thru the forum to fellow jeep enthusiasts. I will contact WOL to find out how to properly market it to you all. Just as an FYI (I'm not bragging just showing my credibility), I have started and built two multi million dollar electronics businesses. My current biz is an electronics contract manufacturing company with just under 50 employees. I have the contacts, etc to build and market these kits the right way. Any additional information, feedback, etc as to what you will be looking for or how the kit from the previous company could be improved on would speed up the development curve. Like you, I wanted a turnkey, high quality, reliable setup to give me peace of mind when I was out in the desert.
Sounds great!
Here's a few suggestions:
1) A "basic" and a "premium" model
The basic would have the minimum components just to make it work, e.g. tray and isolator/charger
The premium would have monitoring voltmeters, capacity to manage the batteries such as using both to start engine, low voltage alarms, maybe a programmable automatic shutdown for the main battery to save power for engine start, etc.
This should help addressing the budget and the premium market segments.
2) save costs. For example, I care less for pretty packages. Use that cost on the product itself
3) make a decent installation guide. If printing a good one will be too expensive make it electronic and we download. Cost for this is very low.
4) make sure to use quality parts. As you pointed out. A dual-battery setup is for peace of mind, therefore reliability is key
5) channels to market. Even though distribution adds cost, it helps you managing inventory, credit, etc. So, pick a couple reputable companies that will help your product success. There are a few folks in this forum that can do a great job on that.
6) once you have the kits' concepts ready let us know. Also, if you come up with great ideas, patent them. ;-)
12-11-2011, 09:59 AM
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and less 
my 2 cents
12-11-2011, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AptPupil
With a ton of pictures - with reference points - i.e. - see fig 7.7. Use call outs and arrows to help illustrate a point further. Tools required, expected time, helping hands. And for the love of Pete, put them in order of sense. I really hate when you're at step 3 and the garbled nonsense in step 4 says - Don't tighten in Step 3 install this over/under/through it or whatever meaning, you have to undo some or all of previous step. And don't let an engineer write them. They like to fascinate everyone with their big words and such. It just creates more and less
my 2 cents
and less my 2 cents
It's a great point. I suggest you sent a few kits to some of us and we can write the guide for you. I already volunteer for that. ;-)