Is this the best headlight setup for the price?
12-18-2011, 06:26 PM
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I'd love to try a pair of Speakers out, but they're just way too expensive for my blood. The technology will come down in price in a year or two ... I'm not going anywhere.
I do not know the difference in light output between the 70/65W Osram Plus 50 and the 85/80W Osram Plus 50. I had the standard 60/55W Narva Rangepower Plus 50 in Cibie reflectors in my old TJ, and by God they were great. Any increase in light output than what I had before will be an added bonus. From what Daniel Stern has said, the minimal light output difference is greatly offset by the lifespan of the bulbs. Keep in mind, most +50 bulbs from any of the reputable manufacturers (Narva, Osram, Philips, etc.) is about 6 months ... they are consumable items.
Because Hella doesn't make their own bulbs. You're also getting your bulbs from Walmart. Get a high quality bulb from Daniel Stern or Susquehanna MotorSports, but, as I said above, you have to realize that high output H4 bulbs are consumable items. Have an extra pair in your glove box ready to go because they are going to burn out. It's the offset of having high output primary lighting.
I do not know the difference in light output between the 70/65W Osram Plus 50 and the 85/80W Osram Plus 50. I had the standard 60/55W Narva Rangepower Plus 50 in Cibie reflectors in my old TJ, and by God they were great. Any increase in light output than what I had before will be an added bonus. From what Daniel Stern has said, the minimal light output difference is greatly offset by the lifespan of the bulbs. Keep in mind, most +50 bulbs from any of the reputable manufacturers (Narva, Osram, Philips, etc.) is about 6 months ... they are consumable items.
Because Hella doesn't make their own bulbs. You're also getting your bulbs from Walmart. Get a high quality bulb from Daniel Stern or Susquehanna MotorSports, but, as I said above, you have to realize that high output H4 bulbs are consumable items. Have an extra pair in your glove box ready to go because they are going to burn out. It's the offset of having high output primary lighting.
12-18-2011, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ShakyJake
That is an old wive's tale. I live at 8000ft in a ski resort. Never had an issue with snow or ice build up on the JW Speaker headlights.
If it were a problem, there would be a lot more semi truckers crashing their rigs as many are now equipped with LEDs. I think the tale comes from early tests of LED traffic signal lights, that weren't that high power or were poorly designed.
12-18-2011, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by C2U5H
I'd love to try a pair of Speakers out, but they're just way too expensive for my blood. The technology will come down in price in a year or two ... I'm not going anywhere.
I do not know the difference in light output between the 70/65W Osram Plus 50 and the 85/80W Osram Plus 50. I had the standard 60/55W Narva Rangepower Plus 50 in Cibie reflectors in my old TJ, and by God they were great. Any increase in light output than what I had before will be an added bonus. From what Daniel Stern has said, the minimal light output difference is greatly offset by the lifespan of the bulbs. Keep in mind, most +50 bulbs from any of the reputable manufacturers (Narva, Osram, Philips, etc.) is about 6 months ... they are consumable items.
Because Hella doesn't make their own bulbs. You're also getting your bulbs from Walmart. Get a high quality bulb from Daniel Stern or Susquehanna MotorSports, but, as I said above, you have to realize that high output H4 bulbs are consumable items. Have an extra pair in your glove box ready to go because they are going to burn out. It's the offset of having high output primary lighting.
I do not know the difference in light output between the 70/65W Osram Plus 50 and the 85/80W Osram Plus 50. I had the standard 60/55W Narva Rangepower Plus 50 in Cibie reflectors in my old TJ, and by God they were great. Any increase in light output than what I had before will be an added bonus. From what Daniel Stern has said, the minimal light output difference is greatly offset by the lifespan of the bulbs. Keep in mind, most +50 bulbs from any of the reputable manufacturers (Narva, Osram, Philips, etc.) is about 6 months ... they are consumable items.
Because Hella doesn't make their own bulbs. You're also getting your bulbs from Walmart. Get a high quality bulb from Daniel Stern or Susquehanna MotorSports, but, as I said above, you have to realize that high output H4 bulbs are consumable items. Have an extra pair in your glove box ready to go because they are going to burn out. It's the offset of having high output primary lighting.
I am now running the bulbs that come with the rallylight kits. Not bad bulbs. They are not as white as the Phillips but still nice. My hella housings took a rock hit and since swapping bulbs and housings is a pain with the winch in the way I'm looking forward to swapping the hella stuff for LEDs with poly lenses. Just trying do decide what kind.
I would suggest if you get glass housings you put a quality protective film on them to protect against rock hits. The stuff wworks
12-19-2011, 03:26 AM
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I've run 90/100's for the past 30 years in Hellas.
Bulbs last far longer than 1 year (like 5 or 6 as with any headlight) and don't cost $50.
I'd like to know how these rumors get started.
Jeeze.
For less than $250 you can have so much light it'll knock your socks off and not the blue horseshit stuff.
Bulbs last far longer than 1 year (like 5 or 6 as with any headlight) and don't cost $50.
I'd like to know how these rumors get started.
Jeeze.
For less than $250 you can have so much light it'll knock your socks off and not the blue horseshit stuff.
12-19-2011, 04:30 AM
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I've run 90/100's for the past 30 years in Hellas.
Bulbs last far longer than 1 year (like 5 or 6 as with any headlight) and don't cost $50.
I'd like to know how these rumors get started.
Jeeze.
For less than $250 you can have so much light it'll knock your socks off and not the blue horseshit stuff.
Bulbs last far longer than 1 year (like 5 or 6 as with any headlight) and don't cost $50.
I'd like to know how these rumors get started.
Jeeze.
For less than $250 you can have so much light it'll knock your socks off and not the blue horseshit stuff.
So you know metal halide bulbs are suppose to be replaced every year even if they dont burn out. Even if your bulbs lasts for a full year, the amount of light it produces is significantly less than new. Over time you adjust to the declining light output and dont realize it is happening. If you replaced them now with the exact same bulbs, you would see a huge improvement.
12-19-2011, 06:11 AM
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That is an old wive's tale. I live at 8000ft in a ski resort. Never had an issue with snow or ice build up on the JW Speaker headlights.
If it were a problem, there would be a lot more semi truckers crashing their rigs as many are now equipped with LEDs. I think the tale comes from early tests of LED traffic signal lights, that weren't that high power or were poorly designed.
If it were a problem, there would be a lot more semi truckers crashing their rigs as many are now equipped with LEDs. I think the tale comes from early tests of LED traffic signal lights, that weren't that high power or were poorly designed.
12-19-2011, 07:28 AM
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The JW speakers have a fan to blow the heat from the heatsink onto the lens. Without this fan all the heat would be at the heatink and wouldn't be heating the lens to melt the snow and ice. Perhaps with the shallower TruckLite LEDs the heatsink is close enough to the lens where the radiant heat melts the snow and ice.
12-19-2011, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 03fatboy
I've run 90/100's for the past 30 years in Hellas.
Bulbs last far longer than 1 year (like 5 or 6 as with any headlight) and don't cost $50.
I'd like to know how these rumors get started.
Jeeze.
For less than $250 you can have so much light it'll knock your socks off and not the blue horseshit stuff.
Bulbs last far longer than 1 year (like 5 or 6 as with any headlight) and don't cost $50.
I'd like to know how these rumors get started.
Jeeze.
For less than $250 you can have so much light it'll knock your socks off and not the blue horseshit stuff.
12-19-2011, 08:37 AM
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That is an old wive's tale. I live at 8000ft in a ski resort. Never had an issue with snow or ice build up on the JW Speaker headlights.
If it were a problem, there would be a lot more semi truckers crashing their rigs as many are now equipped with LEDs. I think the tale comes from early tests of LED traffic signal lights, that weren't that high power or were poorly designed.
If it were a problem, there would be a lot more semi truckers crashing their rigs as many are now equipped with LEDs. I think the tale comes from early tests of LED traffic signal lights, that weren't that high power or were poorly designed.
12-19-2011, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Littlejon
The JW speakers have a fan to blow the heat from the heatsink onto the lens. Without this fan all the heat would be at the heatink and wouldn't be heating the lens to melt the snow and ice. Perhaps with the shallower TruckLite LEDs the heatsink is close enough to the lens where the radiant heat melts the snow and ice.