Audio Experts - Will this setup replace base stereo w/o CANBUS issues?
#1
Audio Experts - Will this setup replace base stereo w/o CANBUS issues?
I have the base stereo with steering wheel controls...no amp, no usb. Adding usb using factory parts costs $300-$400. So I want to replace the HU with something that has usb and what the heck might as well throw an amp at it while I'm in there. I poked around Crutchfield and when it comes to adapters that is where things gets fuzzy. Maintain steering wheel controls but lose fade? I don't know but that is what it looks like to me unless I add an adapter that works with NAV and factory amp which I don't have.
I'm assuming since I don't have an amp that the oem speaker wires connect directly to my HU. (Edit: They do.) So I will have to extend the speaker connections to the amp and use RCA jacks from the HU to the amp.
Head Unit
Amazon.com : Pioneer FHX720BT Double Din Bluetooth MIXTRAX I : Car Electronics
6 volt 4 channel preamp outs, usb and Bluetooth.
Amp
Amazon.com : Clarion Mobile Electronics XC1410 D-Class 4-Channel Amplifier : Vehicle Multi Channel Amplifiers : Car Electronics
50W x 4 - compact size, hoping to install in factory location. Anyone have this in factory amp location? Edit: Doesn't fit stock location...too deep.
Dash Kit
Amazon.com : Metra 95-6511 Chrysler/Jeep DDIN 2007 Dash Kit : Vehicle Audio Video Accessories And Parts : Car Electronics
Amazon warns it won't fit my 14 but package says 2007 up. Is the Scosche better? I may just get both and fiddle with it. I want it to look good.
Steering Wheel Controls and EVIC Integration
Amazon.com: PAC RP4-CH11 Radiopro4 Stereo Replacement Interface for Select Chrysler/Mitsubishi/Volkswagen Vehicles: Car Electronics
HU states it has rear input for this.
Antenna
Crutchfield says I need both the adapter and extension. Extension not needed.
Amazon.com : Metra 40-EU10 Antenna to Radio Adapter Cable for Select 2002-Up BMW/Volkswagen Vehicles : Vehicle Audio Video Antennas : Car Electronics
Anything else I need? The whole setup just under $300 with free Prime shipping. Cheaper than adding factory usb. I feel like I may need another adapter to keep the CANBUS happy but not sure.
Thanks for looking and any help is much appreciated.
I'm assuming since I don't have an amp that the oem speaker wires connect directly to my HU. (Edit: They do.) So I will have to extend the speaker connections to the amp and use RCA jacks from the HU to the amp.
Head Unit
Amazon.com : Pioneer FHX720BT Double Din Bluetooth MIXTRAX I : Car Electronics
6 volt 4 channel preamp outs, usb and Bluetooth.
Amp
Amazon.com : Clarion Mobile Electronics XC1410 D-Class 4-Channel Amplifier : Vehicle Multi Channel Amplifiers : Car Electronics
50W x 4 - compact size, hoping to install in factory location. Anyone have this in factory amp location? Edit: Doesn't fit stock location...too deep.
Dash Kit
Amazon.com : Metra 95-6511 Chrysler/Jeep DDIN 2007 Dash Kit : Vehicle Audio Video Accessories And Parts : Car Electronics
Amazon warns it won't fit my 14 but package says 2007 up. Is the Scosche better? I may just get both and fiddle with it. I want it to look good.
Steering Wheel Controls and EVIC Integration
Amazon.com: PAC RP4-CH11 Radiopro4 Stereo Replacement Interface for Select Chrysler/Mitsubishi/Volkswagen Vehicles: Car Electronics
HU states it has rear input for this.
Antenna
Crutchfield says I need both the adapter and extension. Extension not needed.
Amazon.com : Metra 40-EU10 Antenna to Radio Adapter Cable for Select 2002-Up BMW/Volkswagen Vehicles : Vehicle Audio Video Antennas : Car Electronics
Anything else I need? The whole setup just under $300 with free Prime shipping. Cheaper than adding factory usb. I feel like I may need another adapter to keep the CANBUS happy but not sure.
Thanks for looking and any help is much appreciated.
Last edited by 14Sport; 03-13-2015 at 02:25 PM.
#3
I used the RP4 CH11 pac interface for stereo hook up while retaining steering wheel controls. Works like a charm. Alpine HU. You may want to see how it works without an extra amp, and if unhappy look at upgrading speakers first.
#4
Do you have the factory amp? It says you lose fade ability with the factory amp. Do you know if fade still works with an aftermarket amp? If so, I can replace 2 parts with this one.
Okay, according to PAC it combines those two items I have above so I will get this instead. Thanks, antpink. I'm going to update the first post with this change.
Last edited by 14Sport; 03-10-2015 at 10:19 AM.
#6
I wouldn't use that little amp. Use the new headunits power to power your speakers, and if you don't like it, install new speakers.
I had the base stereo also. I installed 4 néw speakers. Sound improved dramatically! (Poly fill in soundbar too)
Then I installed a née pioneer head unit, sound improved even more!
Then I added a mono amp and sub, sound quality is now amazing.
I wouldn't mess with that 50wx4 amp unless you really want it in there. But you don't need it.
the rp4-ch11: make sure you take your time and wire everything correctly, and it plugs into "wired remote" .....NOT "aux" on the back of the new headunit.
I had the base stereo also. I installed 4 néw speakers. Sound improved dramatically! (Poly fill in soundbar too)
Then I installed a née pioneer head unit, sound improved even more!
Then I added a mono amp and sub, sound quality is now amazing.
I wouldn't mess with that 50wx4 amp unless you really want it in there. But you don't need it.
the rp4-ch11: make sure you take your time and wire everything correctly, and it plugs into "wired remote" .....NOT "aux" on the back of the new headunit.
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I wouldn't use that little amp. Use the new headunits power to power your speakers, and if you don't like it, install new speakers.
I had the base stereo also. I installed 4 néw speakers. Sound improved dramatically! (Poly fill in soundbar too)
Then I installed a née pioneer head unit, sound improved even more!
Then I added a mono amp and sub, sound quality is now amazing.
I wouldn't mess with that 50wx4 amp unless you really want it in there. But you don't need it.
the rp4-ch11: make sure you take your time and wire everything correctly, and it plugs into "wired remote" .....NOT "aux" on the back of the new headunit.
I had the base stereo also. I installed 4 néw speakers. Sound improved dramatically! (Poly fill in soundbar too)
Then I installed a née pioneer head unit, sound improved even more!
Then I added a mono amp and sub, sound quality is now amazing.
I wouldn't mess with that 50wx4 amp unless you really want it in there. But you don't need it.
the rp4-ch11: make sure you take your time and wire everything correctly, and it plugs into "wired remote" .....NOT "aux" on the back of the new headunit.
My main concern is going to be wiring the rp4-11. I'm hoping the instructions are good. The ones I found on PAC's site suck. I think it's safe to assume RCAs from HU to amp. Steering wheel controls to "wired remote'.
Main OEM stereo harness to RP4. RP4 to new HU. Somewhere in there I have to redirect the speaker wires to the amp. Straight from the RP4 to OEM connector?