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Aftermarket fog lights with factory wiring not working 2014 Rubicon

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Old 10-26-2013 | 05:52 AM
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Default Aftermarket fog lights with factory wiring not working 2014 Rubicon

Hey guys, Sorry if this has been covered. I searched and couldn't find anything on my specific issue.

I replaced my front bumper and the factory fog lights won't work in the new fog light openings. So I got some Rugged Ridge 6" 100W lights and got them mounted and they fit great. I wired them to the factory fog light wiring as I wanted to use them with the factory switch.

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All of that went great, but here is the problem. When I turn them on they will flash 4 times slowly and then stay off. Thought it may be the relay wasn't big enough to handle the larger lights but apparently the '14 doesn't have a fog light relay. I've been told the fogs are controlled by the TIPM and that's probably what's causing the issue.

I know fix #1 would be to use the factory wiring to control a relay and run the power for the lights from the battery. I don't want to do this because the battery is getting crowed with what's connected already (winch, step sliders, and S-Pod).

Is there anyway to reprogram the TIPM to accept the larger current draw of the 100W lights? This would be my first choice. Or does anyone know if there is a relay in the 2014?

Other option would be to find LEDs that are round 6" that I can mount and wire those to the factory wiring.

Any ideas?
Old 10-26-2013 | 06:22 AM
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They also make square led lights that mount direct with no splicing. Inspired Engineering makes them. They have a thread under vendors/sponsors.

That's about the extent of my electrical knowledge. Lol.
Old 10-26-2013 | 06:52 AM
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For those lights you will have to use the stock harness to trigger a relay. The stock harness only does 24w any more and the tipm will sense a fault and shut them down. You cant change the settings so a relay is your only option.
Old 10-26-2013 | 08:21 AM
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And honestly, I wouldn't use the stock fog switch to trigger the relay (although that is your only option is you want to use that switch).

Reason being, is that the fogs only turn on when the lows are on. When you go to the highbeams, the fogs turn off. The idea behind it, is you don't want a lot of up close light in the foreground as it makes it harder the see stuff in the distance (your pupils get smaller, not bigger).
Old 10-26-2013 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by shabbernigdo
For those lights you will have to use the stock harness to trigger a relay. The stock harness only does 24w any more and the tipm will sense a fault and shut them down. You cant change the settings so a relay is your only option.
Thank you for that information, very helpful. Guess I nw need to find round 6" LEDs that pull less than 24What I can mount in the holes.

Thanks.
Old 10-26-2013 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by matprovo
They also make square led lights that mount direct with no splicing. Inspired Engineering makes them. They have a thread under vendors/sponsors. That's about the extent of my electrical knowledge. Lol.
inspired engineering makes a plug n play led that works great. Installed them to factory plugs and no issues at all. Great lights
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Originally Posted by chad s
inspired engineering makes a plug n play led that works great. Installed them to factory plugs and no issues at all. Great lights
The problem is I have a 6" hole to fill. If I use a plug and play light they are 99% of the time the same size as the factory fog light and that would just look silly in a hole that's 6". I'm specifically looking for a 6" light. If I wanted a smaller one I would just use the factory fogs.

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Now if there is a light that has some adapter bracket to make it 6", that would be an option. Any ideas?
Old 10-26-2013 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Septu
And honestly, I wouldn't use the stock fog switch to trigger the relay (although that is your only option is you want to use that switch).

Reason being, is that the fogs only turn on when the lows are on. When you go to the highbeams, the fogs turn off. The idea behind it, is you don't want a lot of up close light in the foreground as it makes it harder the see stuff in the distance (your pupils get smaller, not bigger).
I understand this logic and actually agree with it. The thing is I have 70" of LED light on the front of the Jeep so there is no reason for me to ever use these unless I want "fog lights". They would also serve as daytime running lights if I ever wanted to turn that option on.





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Originally Posted by jbbouknight
I understand this logic and actually agree with it. The thing is I have 70" of LED light on the front of the Jeep so there is no reason for me to ever use these unless I want "fog lights". They would also serve as daytime running lights if I ever wanted to turn that option on.





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Great looking Jeep. I love the setup. I can understand your reasoning for wanting it setup the way you do.

However the best thing to do is wire in a relay off a new fuse block. All of your add on's should be going to a new fuse box anyway. I would recommend something like this:

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Or you can build a complete system using one of these, then buying the right fuses and relays and building out the board as you need it... This is really the better way, as it is a clean install with full protecting built in.

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Using setups like this keeps everything fused and protects both the equipment installed and the Jeep from over load or fire.
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Originally Posted by darkknight1999
Great looking Jeep. I love the setup. I can understand your reasoning for wanting it setup the way you do.

However the best thing to do is wire in a relay off a new fuse block. All of your add on's should be going to a new fuse box anyway. I would recommend something like this:

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Or you can build a complete system using one of these, then buying the right fuses and relays and building out the board as you need it... This is really the better way, as it is a clean install with full protecting built in.

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Using setups like this keeps everything fused and protects both the equipment installed and the Jeep from over load or fire.
Thanks for the advise, you are absolutely right. Actually everything is already wired as you suggested, thru a S-Pod. But I don't want to wire the fog lights thru it because that would make them switched off the S-Pod and not the factory switch, or I'd have to leave the S-Pod switch on all the time and then trigger a second relay with the fog light switch. That is getting a little more complicated than it needs to be.

If you want to look at my build it in the Show and Tell folder:

https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/jk-s...-build-286305/

I've pretty much decided to go with 24W LEDs, just trying to find the right size for the hole.



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