additional reverse light...is this possible?
#21
Super Moderator
What do you know about OEM testing specs of electronics? I'll tell you because, I work in the design of OEM electronic parts. Chrysler has testing specs that all electronic circuits must pass which includes a back current feedback test, a reversed polarity test, an ESD (Electro Static Discharge) test and even a short to ground test. So the things JK-Ford is recommending to add...such as a Diode...to prevent such a thing is already built into that circuit or it would have never have passed any of those tests. On top of that....how much back feed are a couple of extra 55 Watt light bulbs going to cause? This is not an ignition coil inductor which creates a large magnetic field....it's a light bulb.
If you want to go further with that back feed scenario, JK-Ford also recommended using a Relay connected to that same circuit we're talking about. What is a relay? A relay has a coil of wire in it, which creates a magnetic field which in-turn then pulls a metal strip to close a switch. The coil in the relay is a source of back feed, therefore adding the relay actually increases the amount of back feed that could go to that circuit.
Last edited by Rednroll; 01-04-2012 at 06:02 AM.
#22
JK Enthusiast
I think there is a misunderstanding between us. (Maybe my English)
I fully agree with you, and I think the same thing. Check my previous posts and see that I wrote that the diode, or an extra wire is not necessary. I have an extra reverse light connected simply and directly into the circuit
I fully agree with you, and I think the same thing. Check my previous posts and see that I wrote that the diode, or an extra wire is not necessary. I have an extra reverse light connected simply and directly into the circuit
#23
JK Junkie
OK ,I understand what you mean but it's proven nearly three years of operation.
Consider this.....The Mopar and other aftermarket trailer wire harness add-on kits for the JK tap directly into the rear tail lights. Thus, using the existing wiring that runs from the front of the vehicle to the rear tail lights. These trailer kit harnesses are designed to power additional lights on a trailer
Besides that, all the rear lights have a fuse that will blow before the wiring running to them ever reaches a point where the wiring could catch on fire, thus the fuse is there to prevent such a thing. So if the fuse blows, then that answers your question.....that you then need to run a separate wire from the front and use a relay. No need to over think this, or act like the sky is gonna fall if you tap into the existing wiring.
So tap away
So tap away
So you really think that Chrysler would design a light circuit that doesn't have protection against that? Even without adding additional lights the potential for a back feed is possible.
If you want to go further with that back feed scenario, JK-Ford also recommended using a Relay connected to that same circuit we're talking about. What is a relay? A relay has a coil of wire in it, which creates a magnetic field which in-turn then pulls a metal strip to close a switch. The coil in the relay is a source of back feed, therefore adding the relay actually increases the amount of back feed that could go to that circuit
Guy's, It's your Jeep. And I'm not asking anyone to take my word for gospel! Do your own research. Draw your own conclusions. Take what ever level of risk that you deam acceptable. But I can tell you as a 30 year vetran of the electrical industry, I'll not wire my Jeep that way.
#24
Do what you wish, and try to justify it. JK-Ford is correct, you may be taking a risk easily averted with proper wiring. Backfeeding is an issue. Also, consider how many amps total that reverse circuit is drawing, and look at the gauge wire carrying it and factor in conservative variables. If it falls into specs, go for it. If it pushes the limits, you're taking chances. You can plug 12 cords with an adapter into a duplex outlet and it could work fine for years, but one day it could burn your house down.
Honestly, for less than $10 , you could do this mod. properly.
Honestly, for less than $10 , you could do this mod. properly.
Last edited by ShakyJake; 01-04-2012 at 05:33 PM.
#25
JK Enthusiast
#26
JK Junkie
So did you screw up other stuff on your jeep too? Your comparing apples to oranges now. Electrical instalations can be done right. I do it every day. Besides, I'm sure that there are a lot of guys on this form that put a lot of effort into making sure that their modifications are done right!
Last edited by JK-Ford; 01-05-2012 at 02:41 AM.
#27
JK Super Freak
I am interested in adding lights.. Posted in the linked post but didn't get a response about sizing the diode? Are there different sizes and if so, how do you determine what size diode to use?
#29
JK Super Freak
#30
JK Junkie
Yes, physical size. Your relay only draws 1/10 amp. A diode close to this rating will be so small ( physically ) that it will be hard to hold. A larger diode will be overkill ( electricaly ). But you will not need a magnifying glass to work with it. In this case, a larger rating diode will stop more current.