guys, respectfully i totally understand where you are coming from. i don't think there is a "normal" man alive who does not want to protect his family.

i am 46 years old and in my entire life have never even come close to feeling the need to own a gun.

i live 15 minutes outside of toronto and frequent the city many times for concerts, dinner and whatever. toronto is a BIG city, bigger than most in the US except for the majors. don't get me wrong; toronto has crime too but nothing, i feel, necessitating the need to carry a gun.

happy. you live in niagara falls, ny. just 5 minutes away from canada. why is there such a difference in attitudes toward guns between our two countries, have you ever been to toronto? do you feel the same need to carry a gun there if you have?

it seems to me the right you believe you have to carry one creates the need for you to have one.

i am not disinterested in guns as much as i am fearful of them. i feel nothing good can come out of a bunch of people carrying guns around to protect themselves.

but what do i know, i'm just a yellar bellied pacifist eh!!

 

i used to carry my xd alot but now im starting to carry the 1911 again, idk switch it up i guess.

 

I think it is just a different line of thinking between canada and here. I don't think he is trying to say gun ownership or carry is bad, I just think he is trying to understand. I think it is a nice luxury we have to be able to take our own safety into out own hands. I live a good 15 minutes or more from the nearest police station. lots could happen in 15 minutes. Being able to arm myself legally well enough to be prepared for most any situation is a great benefit of being a united states citizen to me. Most countries are taking this ability from their people. I wrote a research paper on gun control, and found that violent crime has consistently gone up as citizens became unarmed in countries worldwide.

Robert Anson Heinlein stated "An armed society is a polite society" and I believe it to be true. If an armed carjacker knows I have my G21 with 14 rounds of .45 caliber hollowpoints sitting next to me he make think twice about asking me to give him my jeep. I tell you though, I would gladly hand over my wallet, jeep, whatever if I knew there would be no loss of life. Unfortunately there are no guarantees. So if I am pushed into that corner I will shoot my way out. Then thank the soldiers who fought to do defend my right to do so.

 

I will NOT get sucked into this as i said in my earlier post. I gave my reasons and that is the end of it. You can try to infer into me anything you wish, or come up wit whatever opinions you may have of me and try to tell people what i think or that somehow you know me or my beliefs or my situation enough to make statements about why i do what i do. You will be WRONG on every single one of them as you already are in this post.

I said i didnt judge you nor did i try to place myself into your situation, yet you seem to think you know mine enough to tell me why i believe what i do or what my situation requires. You know absolutely nothing about me yet you make statements about me and my situation that judge me. You have no right whatsoever to do that. I did not do it to you.

I am through talking to you about this. For me this conversation is over, I dont care what you "think" you know about me. You know nothing.

 

How is it concealing the XDM? I'm looking at getting an XD Service Model, thinking the XDM would be a little big.

 

happy
it seems i worded and arranged my response badly.

the only comment directed at you personally was asking you if you had been to toronto and had felt the need to carry a gun if you had.

the rest was directed to US citizens/forum members as a whole.

of course i don't know you or your situation and i am definitely not judging you. please accept my apology. i did not mean to offend you in any way.

our two countries seem to be miles apart on this issue even though we are neighbors.

our soldiers have fought proudly in many wars also for the liberties we also enjoy yet carrying guns does not seem to be one we hold near and dear to our heart.

social differences and beliefs i guess.

enough said.

 

Hbomb,

• Because when your life or death can be decided in a matter of seconds, the police are only minutes away.
• Because it's much easier to carry a pistol than a policeman.
• Because sometimes bad guys tote too.

I have known other Canadians Hbomb, and they tend to share the same stance as you on guns. I know it's not universal, and I don't mean to paint with too big of a brush, but I think it's safe to say that this sort of thinking is more prevalent in Canada than here. I think we just come from different cultures ultimately, and that's fine, I harbor no ill feelings towards you or anyone else because of your view on guns. You have to remember though, that ours is a nation that did not gain its independence through diplomacy, compromise, or negotiations. The reason our nation was able to gain independence from King George III was that common men were willing to take up whatever weapons they had available and wage war with them. Our Constitution and culture takes that into great consideration. The reason the 2nd amendment (the right to keep and bear arms) was written into the Constitution is to prevent a second tyranny from ever occurring. Although many leftists in America would rather see the 2nd Amendment abolished, as a whole, America is a very pro-gun country, and I feel that the means by which our country gained its independence play no small part in that sentiment. As a culture, we generally feel that we have the right to protect ourselves, our property, and our freedom, sometimes with lethal force if the situation dictates it, and in most cases, the law obliges.



Jason

 

is that a policeman in your pocket, or are you happy to see me?


ok. enough political/social drama. back to what you guys that carry daily tote around with you, please. Unless I have someone convince me otherwise, I am planning a kimber ultra carry II. Hoping to buy one in about 3 weeks.

 

thanks jason.

very insightful response and i can at least understand if not totally agree.

i will concede one thing; canadians are too "politically correct" to the point were our own culture is being compromised.

i do admire the US patriotism.



sorry bigblue. too slow with my response.

carry on!

 

No problem.

Have you seen these yet? Dan Wesson CCO.


Wish I could find one, they are like hens' teeth right now, but if the build quality is as good as my CBOB, I will end up owning one eventually.


Jason