remark

Check out the Travel Management Plan for the area. Some other local clubs were fighting it, but there was no appeal made so after Dec 9, 2010 it was closed. Travel at your own risk, as the goverment does not necesarily need to physically post the closure on the trail.

Here is a quote from BLMs summary letter (linked below):

"Route closures and restoration: A number of routes identified in the physical access inventory will be closed to motorized travel to protect habitat and cultural resources, prevent user conflicts, decrease damage to natural and cultural resources, and prevent route proliferation. Many of these routes are reclaiming condition, are very lightly used primarily for recreational travel, and are in areas with sensitive resource values. Closure of Martinez Canyon to motorized vehicle use will help protect sensitive riparian resource values and wildlife habitat, as well as reduce damage from vandalism and inadvertent visitor use on historic and prehistoric cultural resources."

Here is someone else's summary of the closed trails:

MARTINEZ
Overdose
Woodys Wash
Lower Woodpecker
Broken Ankle

Here are some links:

http://www.blm.gov/az/st/en/prog/tra.../mgc-docs.html

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medial.../DR-letter.pdf

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medial.../T03S_R12E.pdf

Rde2Rok

Don't argue with Andrew! He is are group LAWYER!

jlabe2

Yeah, sorry, don't mean to argue. I have read the above statement from the BLM last fall sometime. All they have to do to close Martinez is shut the gate, and it is still open. Lower Woodpecker is still open, we just came through it yesterday. I am not familiar with the other trails on the list. But before we organize any official run, I will contact BLM and make sure of what the status is of these trails. Also we are supposed to have a "recreation permit" to be in that area. My group all have one because that area is where we primarily wheel. I am also in the process of getting involved with the Tonto Recreation Alliance program. It is a volunteer group that helps Arizona Fish and Game, Arizona State Parks and BLM oversee all of the OHV riding areas around the state. We all know that the land we use for recreation is under attack. So I am going to do what I can to give a positive view of our side to keep as many trails open as possible.

awesomo

I'm looking for a 3inch lift for a JKU. If not a chinese-lift, what do you guys recommend? Will a 3inch lift on 33's fit in my garage?

remark

First, how much are you looking to spend? That is buying it now. Also if you want part of a lift and will buy more of it later also can be a consideration.

Second, what type of offroading, if at all, do you do?

Third, do you have future plans to go any larger?

Lastly, how high is your gararge from the top of your jeep now? How tall are your tires now?

BTW ORFab has lifts that fit a lot of different needs.

Capone

The Fox Shox install and bolting on the Long Arms The RCV Axels are in next





Just to repeat what John said; If you want this lift or have any intrest you NEED to call John, Steve or myself. Steve said he took 3 more phone calls today. Once this first run is gone there will be no more deals... In short you will pay retail price

awesomo

I have about 12 inches of clearance between the top the jeep and garage.

azrwilkinson

Dude way cool! Cant wait to see this mama jama in person!

Love Monkey

More than seeing it...I want to ride the marshmellow!!

EDIT: Um...wait, disregard ha!

Hobbes69

When you come over this weekend you will see how mine fits I have a 2 an3/4 inch with almost 32's on my jeep