Brake system upgrade on the cheap?
#1
Brake system upgrade on the cheap?
It's time to replace the rotors and calipers on my 2009 JKU. I decided I might as well go all the way around and figured if I was going to have to spend the money on replacing the factory stuff and doing the installation myself, I would look into doing an upgrade since the factory brakes are garbage.
Here's the problem. There are a few vendors out there that sell some really nice "Big Brake Kits". Everyone who has purchased them will vouch that they're great. However, to go all the way around (front/rears, rotors, calipers, pads, etc.) the starting price of these kits are $1500 and go upwards and onwards to $7K. This is out of my comfort zone of what I'm willing to spend on a brake upgrade, especially considering I'm doing all the installation work myself.
If I was to just replace the stock stuff, I'm looking at a price range of $400-$500. So where's the vendor who's filling the need for the more budget conscience folks looking to get an improvement over stock brakes in the $500-$1K price range to go all the way around?
I think I've been on almost every Jeep Wrangler forum on the web reading similar posts, where this seems to be a common interest with no real solution in sight. Lots of discussions and investigations but no solution posted.
The biggest obstacle seems to be in finding a good value dual piston bolt on caliper for the JK. Many have discussed and investigated using the OEM WJ and Dodge Ram Calipers because they are affordable to purchase and have similar dimensions as the stock JK calipers but I haven't read where anyone has posted any success when pursuing this route.
Here's what I'm currently looking at for an upgrade on a budget solution that falls into that $500-$1K range.
Complete rotor and pad kits:
(found on Amazon) Power Stop 4.5 star review rating.
Do a search on "Power Stop K2798 Front/Rear Ceramic Brake Pad and Cross Drilled/Slotted Combo Rotor One-Click Brake Kit"
Price:$308
(found on eBay) (Vendor Store= Brake Motive)
Do a search on "FRONT + REAR DRILLED SLOTTED BRAKE ROTORS AND CERAMIC PADS 2007 - 2014 Jeep"
It looks like the same stuff as on Amazon.
Price: $210
Now if I could find some bolt on or adapter mounted dual Piston Calipers at an OEM brake caliper price, I would be in that wonderful $500-$1K price range.
Any suggestions?
Here's the problem. There are a few vendors out there that sell some really nice "Big Brake Kits". Everyone who has purchased them will vouch that they're great. However, to go all the way around (front/rears, rotors, calipers, pads, etc.) the starting price of these kits are $1500 and go upwards and onwards to $7K. This is out of my comfort zone of what I'm willing to spend on a brake upgrade, especially considering I'm doing all the installation work myself.
If I was to just replace the stock stuff, I'm looking at a price range of $400-$500. So where's the vendor who's filling the need for the more budget conscience folks looking to get an improvement over stock brakes in the $500-$1K price range to go all the way around?
I think I've been on almost every Jeep Wrangler forum on the web reading similar posts, where this seems to be a common interest with no real solution in sight. Lots of discussions and investigations but no solution posted.
The biggest obstacle seems to be in finding a good value dual piston bolt on caliper for the JK. Many have discussed and investigated using the OEM WJ and Dodge Ram Calipers because they are affordable to purchase and have similar dimensions as the stock JK calipers but I haven't read where anyone has posted any success when pursuing this route.
Here's what I'm currently looking at for an upgrade on a budget solution that falls into that $500-$1K range.
Complete rotor and pad kits:
(found on Amazon) Power Stop 4.5 star review rating.
Do a search on "Power Stop K2798 Front/Rear Ceramic Brake Pad and Cross Drilled/Slotted Combo Rotor One-Click Brake Kit"
Price:$308
(found on eBay) (Vendor Store= Brake Motive)
Do a search on "FRONT + REAR DRILLED SLOTTED BRAKE ROTORS AND CERAMIC PADS 2007 - 2014 Jeep"
It looks like the same stuff as on Amazon.
Price: $210
Now if I could find some bolt on or adapter mounted dual Piston Calipers at an OEM brake caliper price, I would be in that wonderful $500-$1K price range.
Any suggestions?
#2
I've not looked into it but have you considered the "jeep jk br6 brake upgrade"? Google that and see if maybe it fits the bill for you.
A few more miles and I'll be in the same boat that you are.
A few more miles and I'll be in the same boat that you are.
#4
Here's what I got from their website:
http://www.dynatrac.com/progrip-brak...angler-jk.html
The system is a direct bolt-on for 2007-2015 Jeep Wranglers and it includes:
- 13.50-inch front rotors with unique pillar-vented cooling design
- 14.25-inch rear rotors with integral parking brake surface
- Stronger caliper brackets designed using CAD/FEA and advanced engineering tools
- Unique front and rear brake pads for optimum friction performance
- 13.50-inch front rotors with unique pillar-vented cooling design
- 14.25-inch rear rotors with integral parking brake surface
- Stronger caliper brackets designed using CAD/FEA and advanced engineering tools
- Unique front and rear brake pads for optimum friction performance
Last edited by Rednroll; 09-09-2015 at 05:44 PM.
#5
Keying in on your suggestion for a Google search, I now found this:
We knew this stuff was out there but couldn't determine the part numbers that made up the option package. Here they are:
68040177AA - 13.25" Rotor (Qty 2)
68044865AA - Caliper Adapter (Qty 2)
68044863AA - RH Caliper (Qty 1)
68044862AA - LH Caliper (Qty 1)
68044866AC - Pad Kit (Qty 1)
68049018AA - Pin kit (Qty 2)
68091278AC - Master Cyl (Qty 1)
68091279AA - Booster (Qty 1)
The pads turned out to be Dodge Nitro OEM.
I rolled the entire cost on this up using moparpartsamerica.com and it came to $693.99. (Kick in the butt is the pads, $171.00 a set!)
68040177AA - 13.25" Rotor (Qty 2)
68044865AA - Caliper Adapter (Qty 2)
68044863AA - RH Caliper (Qty 1)
68044862AA - LH Caliper (Qty 1)
68044866AC - Pad Kit (Qty 1)
68049018AA - Pin kit (Qty 2)
68091278AC - Master Cyl (Qty 1)
68091279AA - Booster (Qty 1)
The pads turned out to be Dodge Nitro OEM.
I rolled the entire cost on this up using moparpartsamerica.com and it came to $693.99. (Kick in the butt is the pads, $171.00 a set!)
Last edited by Rednroll; 09-10-2015 at 05:22 AM.
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#8
Originally Posted by Black Magic Brakes
I just ordered a set and now all I need is a local tester to do a side by side comparison with our stuff and then we'll know.
Currently, I'm leaning in the direction of the Power Stop Front/Rear kit and then getting some re-man calipers. I'm estimating that should put me at the $400-$500 price range total which is the same if I go full stock replacement which makes it a win if I get better performance. However this BR6 information has me intrigued. If I can find a one stop shop that can have the needed parts shipped to the U.S. Larger stock rotors/calipers at a good price, direct bolt on solution, with increased braking performance sounds like win/win to me.
Last edited by Rednroll; 09-09-2015 at 07:40 PM.
#9
Thanks, I've been looking this over as well. It does seem like you get a lot for the price. I really like that it's a dual piston caliper with a 13in rotor. Where I'm struggling with these front only kits, is what do you put in the rears? It seems strange to me that you would have 13in rotors in the front with the stock 11.89 rotors in the rear. Are there any matching rear rotor/caliper combo kits?
#10
There is a massive thread on JK Owners on this topic. It should answer all your questions.
The majority of improvement will come from the front brakes. If you're not running 37"+ tires, leave the rears stock and maybe get some quality pads (people seem to leave those Green Stuff pads).
You'd probably be thrilled by just going to the Teraflex larger rotors TeraFlex - Performance Slotted Big Rotor Kit - Fits 2007 to 2015 JK Wrangler, Rubicon and Unlimited - 4WheelParts.com.
Again, get some quality pads. The change in rotor diameter will make the greatest difference.
The majority of improvement will come from the front brakes. If you're not running 37"+ tires, leave the rears stock and maybe get some quality pads (people seem to leave those Green Stuff pads).
You'd probably be thrilled by just going to the Teraflex larger rotors TeraFlex - Performance Slotted Big Rotor Kit - Fits 2007 to 2015 JK Wrangler, Rubicon and Unlimited - 4WheelParts.com.
Again, get some quality pads. The change in rotor diameter will make the greatest difference.